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twaddler (imported) wrote: Sat Dec 06, 2008 2:21 pm t possible to not get fat while not taking HRT

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With a regular exercise regime and a healthy diet it is probably quite possible to stay thin.

Before castration my weight sta

yed right around 155lbs -- now it seems stuck at 210. :O

Why do they castrate livestock? Depending on the stock, one answer is to fatten them up.

but for us humans weight is all about calories.

The number of calories going in.

The number of calories "burned".

Less in, more burned = loosing weight.

Same old crap. Diet and exercise. It's so boring. But so true.

You can eat the same and loose weight....just exercise more.

nullorchis (imported) wrote: Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:52 am Why do they castrate livestock? Depending on the stock, one answer is to fatten them up.

The animal analogue can be quite instructive:

Castrate a young bull and he quickly becomes far less aggressive and mostly uninterested in cows. Basically, he becomes asexual and much more gentle. Let him do as he pleases, and he quickly becomes fat and lazy and is headed toward the dinner table. Put him to work pulling a plow or a wagon and he’s still asexual and gentle, but he can become as strong, or stronger, than an intact bull (who’s spending much of his time chasing cows or fighting over them).

Testosterone certainly makes it easier to gain strength. There’s never likely to be a body builder who’s a eunuch not on HRT. But with exercise and diet a eunuch can certainly be stronger and more fit than many an intact couch potato.

While I am no expert, I would suggest that perhaps the lack of testosterone would reduce the rate of metabolism, thus causing weight gain. This in addition to the above, viz., exercise and diet.

Hash (imported) wrote: Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:51 am Besides diet and exercise, has any eunuch tried any diet pills for weight loss? As a eunuch my metabolism has slowed and I am 51 too, so my weight is creeping up. I am considering trying something to speed up my metabolism. I realize that we might not be able to say what the products are specifically, but I need some extra help.

By forcing your body to do something it cant do normally do because the means was taken away

Wouldn’t that cause heart problems over time or other health issues

kristoff wrote: Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:09 am While I am no expert, I would suggest that perhaps the lack of testosterone would reduce the rate of metabolism, thus causing weight gain. This in addition to the above, viz., exercise and diet.

For most people it's all about calories.

"Burn" more calories than you acquire, and you will loose weight.

Thus, the old adage, diet and exercise.

Michael Phelps for example.

He consumed thousands of calories a day.

But since he swam and exercised so much each day, he reamained trim.

If you are willing to exercise enough, you can eat more.

In my experience Testosterone Treatment gave me very early on "Energy" to get up out of bed and get things done. I think the first time it hit me I woke up very surprised that I wasn't still "tired" after sleeping. *That being the norm. Feeling alert and rested I started working around my Garage and cleaning up things that had just been left laying around. Since I went to injectable Testosterone which has a slight "cycle" to it I think I could probably tell you where on the cycle I am by my "motivation" or Energy whatever you want to call it. To the people who are not on any HRT I can only say you are a better man then me! I will say that having low levels seems to become "normal" feeling after only a short while. I have a theory that we all are wired by hormones so that whatever is going on is "normed" fairly quickly. Not that it doesn't affect us! We just don't seem to be as bothered by or notice it as much as those close to us.

Sure this is just one experience but I think that castrated bull probably felt the same. As to if it changes the way you process food? I think thats very possible. And at least may be a part of the puzzle.

nullorchis (imported) wrote: Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:52 am Why do they castrate livestock? Depending on the stock, one answer is to fatten them up.

but for us humans weight is all about calories.

The number of calories going in.

The number of calories "burned".

Less in, more burned = loosing weight.

Same old crap. Diet and exercise. It's so boring. But so true.

You can eat the same and loose weight....just exercise more.

The reason for castrating livestock are:

#1) Not to have too many bulls in the crowd which would upset the herd risking damage to your assets. Think about the fighting and damage that this would entail while they're busy fighting over young hefers.

#2) Not to have too many bulls in the bullpen (literal) which would also risk damage to your assets as they are so busy mangling each other.

#3) To allow administered estradiol to take much more effect upon their metabolisms allowing them to reach maturity faster. This is so that they can be either taken to market and/or butchered faster and thereby saving on less feed per individual asset.

*However to get the most lean but chewy meat from of an individual asset would require leaving the testicles on as the best choice.

*Fat is not an issue with the making of the above choices.

No HRT for me not missing my loss of a bad temper.

Feel good overall.

BudleyBare (imported) wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:07 am The only thing I can point to that apparently has been affected by the loss of T is that my fingernails seem to be more "delicate", meaning more easily broken.

Can fragile fingernails be a symptom of osteoporosis? I have noticed recently that my nails break unusually easily.

shrunken (imported) wrote: Sun Dec 28, 2008 5:22 pm Can fragile fingernails be a symptom of osteoporosis? I have noticed recently that my nails break unusually easily.

My nails have always been brittle, regardless of T-levels. It might be a worthy point to investigate - not the first time I've heard the notion. Any research sleuths out there?