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Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration

Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 5:28 am
by jesaispas (imported)
SilviaCor (imported) wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2013 4:14 am I am not sure jesaispas but ... stop ¡ IT MAY BE TOO DANGEROUS! I am not chemical , but reading the last part of specifications, it has got other sustances and it could be bad for the health. Please, buy the cacl2 in a grocery shop or ebay like other people of this forum, but i would recommend you don't buy in chemical lab. I bought mine in a grocery shop of uk and i am waitting if it has been succesful, i hope.

Be safe. Ah, and excuse me but my english is terrible too.

Edit: For example, it contain heavy metals like Pb, and this is very toxic, You could die if the amount is high. And Barium in low cantities can to destroy some part of your organism ( i don't know how much)

My recomendation is don't try it with this stuff.

Thank you SilviaCor for your honest opinion.. yeah you're right, i can get cacl2 from a grocery or cheese shop.. but the reason I wanted to buy it from a chemical lab is that i want high concentrated cacl2(as it says 99.0-102.0 % in the catalog, although I'm not sure how they can obtain 102 % purity!! ) , so that i can damage testicles with less amount of cacl2, and thus minimizing the risk of leakage to scrotum.

As for other substances such as heavy metals, as indicated in the catalog, It's such a small amount that i doubt it will cause any serious problem( 0.0005 %). and we don't know specifically about the product information of cacl2 that we buy from grocery shop. maybe there are other substances as well that we are not aware of. and besides, Merck is such a reliable and well-known company. I remember someone injecting 99% cacl2 into his testicles..

any opinion?

Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration

Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 6:45 am
by SilviaCor (imported)
My opinion is this ¿Why the scientifics don't use more than 20% of calcium chloride to castrate animals? Because this concentration of cacl2 is enough, more it could be more dangerous and 90% i think it is a crazy, because we don't know how can do this.

Yeah, i did read someone injecting 99% of calcium chloride in this thread, but i don't believe all that i read in internet, more opinions are welcome.

Anyway, good luck if you do it.

Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration

Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 7:32 am
by kristoff
Re-read the thread. NO ONE has injected such high grade concentrated salts before, a couple have had higher concentrations like 30% and as I recall reported some problems. Be careful

Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration

Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:20 am
by r1honour (imported)
Hello jesaispas,

I also recommend against using such a high concentration of CaCl. My understanding is that any salt at such an extreme concentration can cause severe tissue burning, which would necessitate immediate medical intervention.

I used a 30% preparation from a cheese-making shop. I made a sterile preparation using
r1honour (imported) wrote: Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:11 am about 1% benzyl alcohol (basically the same approach as making bacteriostatic water,
which is used to prepare dry medications for injection). I used an insulin needle to mix my preparation into a sterile, sealed mixing bottle. I boiled the bottle for about 30 minutes, then allowed it to cool to room temperature.

I used two 3/4" 29g insulin needles and injected 0.5ml into each testicle in a single dose.

Personally, I believe many here have needlessly used far too much CaCl in their injections. I also believe it is unnecessary to repeat the injection if done properly.

My approach appears to have been quite effective.

It's been just under three months since I injected and my balls are probably 25% their volume originally... and they continue to shrink.

Remember: this approach to castration is to trigger a cascading effect where the cells of your balls fail to regenerate. This is not a process that will happen overnight.

All this said, I do not recommend anyone do this. This is an at your own peril approach to castration. We've seen far too many problems in these pages, resulting in emergency medical intervention. An understanding of sterile technique and confidence in self-injection is essential to avoid severe risks.

R.H.

Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration

Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 3:52 pm
by eunuched (imported)
First, I do not recommend CaCl2. Ethyl alcohol will over time work and it much safer Ethyl alcohol is used in pain management to close down nerves. It takes time and multiple injections but the pain compared to CaCl2 is manageable.

If you must inject CaCl2, I recommend not more than 3 to 5ml injection of a 20-30 percent concentration. Any higher concentration or amount will cause serious issues including profound pain and adhesions of the testicle and spermatic cord to the scrotum.

Be advised that if you wish to have your testicles removed in the future you will probably subjected to a radical ochiectomy rather than through the scrotum as it will be treated as possible cancer That is unless you believe you can find a doctor you can confide in.

Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 6:33 am
by jesaispas (imported)
Ok, Thank you all my friends for your informative opinions,

I just injected 1 cc per testicle of approximately 20% cacl2.

I bought 99% pure medical grade cacl2. mixed it with distilled water(in proportion of 4 water to 1 cacl2) so I can obtain 20% of cacl2 dissolved in water.when I mix it with distilled water the solution got hot. It was weird. then I injected 1 cc of the solution into each testicle. It wasn't painful. but I was so terrified by what I was doing. I really don't have any other choices. I have to do it. when doctors don't do it for me I have to do it for myself. I'm helpless and hopeless. the only place I can share my opinions is here.. right now i don't have any pain, but as others said, it takes couple of hours for the initial pain to kick in.. so I'm sitting here crossing my finger it won't be so bad.

Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 11:23 pm
by jesaispas (imported)
Ok, a quick update,18 hours post-injection: Last night was a rough night for me. I could get only three hours of sleep. The initial pain started after 2 hours. It wasn't so bad. over 3 hours It got worse and I took an Ibuprofen and It was quite bearable. but the excruciating pain started after 7 hours. my testicles were quite painful but the worse was lower abdominal pain and back pain. I took another Ibuprofen and tried to sleep. after 10 hours in the midnight the back pain was so intense that I couldn't take it anymore. I had Nausea. having said that I have a very high pain tolerance. I was rolling around in my bed in pain and agony. anyone else would have been ended up in emergency room. but I couldn't. Finally I couldn't manage the pain and I took another two Pills of Ibuprofen. but that wasn't helpful. in the midnight the pain got so excruciating that I had to use Diclofenac suppository. It calmed down the extreme pain and I could get some hours of sleep. right now the effect of suppository is starting to fade away and my testicles are quite swollen and sore and painful. but hopefully back pain and abdominal pain isn't back yet.

any one knows when back pain starts to subside? It's quite unbearable. in scale of 1 to 10 It's 8/10.

Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 11:52 am
by eunuched (imported)
I never had severe back or abdominal pain. This is probably due to the excessive amount of ethyl alcohol injections which probably blocked most of the pain responses. The pain will slowly wan but expect at least two to three more days of fairly intense pain and another week of moderate pain in the testicles. I used hydrocodone for the first couple of days. There is a very good possibility that your testicle(s) may start to adhere to tunica vaginalis which is tubular tissue around it. This happened about one week after the injections and it caused some pain and I was able to dislodge the testicle but was

a very painful process.

Quite frankly the overall events are a little foggy now. I know that I wished had stayed with the alcohol. My testicles became very enlarged and then slowly decreased in size but never returned to the pre-injection size, which was surprising as most reports were that the size of the testicles were greatly reduced. After several months there was basically no sensation in the testicles. I could apply an extreme amount of pressure without any feeling. Might as well been silicone

replacements.

Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:27 pm
by SilviaCor (imported)
I hope your quick recovery jesaispas. I did my injections one month and a few days ago ( CaCl2 33% mixed with Balkan vodka 88% in a 3 to 1 ratio and i put it inside an sterilized bottle of chemical shop, i mean, 24% of cacl2 with 22 % of alcohol, if my maths aren't wrong) but the worst pain only last 4 hours. Perhaps the numbing effects of the alcohol helped me and to other users in that area. I had abdominal pain for 4 to 5 days, and it was very bad specially when i was going to the w.c to do, er.. you know lol.

You will pass this agony soon, but the first days are difficult to do some things, even to walk.

Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 3:08 pm
by daifu-orchid (imported)
Balkan Vodka, the Nectar of the gods, and you poked it in your.... ! Seems there is much to be said for CaCL2. :)