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Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:03 pm
by sparkey49 (imported)
I did not tell anyone of the injections and on the ultrasound the left one showed good blood flow in and out even though it showed damage to the testicle. I would say at this point that the remaining testicle is about one half original size as it has continued to shrink since removal of right testicle. As for since the surgery things are now going pretty well no major complications. There was a bit of complication with the healing of the scrotum skin due to the damage to the skin. After everything so far I would just have to say if you already do not have large testicles maybe start with a little bit smaller amount although no problems with the left one.
Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:21 pm
by r1honour (imported)
sparkey49,
With the 0.5 ml I put in each of my originally very large nuts, I'd have to say I probably exceeded what was necessary, given the orchitis I've unleashed on myself.
As I mentioned before, we're messing with a mighty complex anatomy and, unfortunately, there are risks to any insertion of a foreign substance.
I remember reading some discussion far back in this thread regarding an optimal dosage. I don't think any real consensus was reached, but I chose to dose on the side of caution with what I chose to inject.
But, I must say, I went in with eyes wide open regarding possible loss of one or both of my balls from my actions. Personally, I'm okay with that risk. And, as I'm only eight days in, time will be my judge as to whether or not my choice turns out to be effective.
I really feel for what you've experienced. Nobody needs to go through emergency surgery, even if the result was (sorta-almost) something what was wanted in the first place.
Hopefully, your remaining testicle (and mine) shrink and give us the peace we're seeking.
Kind regards,
Randall
Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 5:18 am
by sparkey49 (imported)
r1honour
Thanks
At this point one is gone and the other is about the size of a grape or smaller and seems firmer. I don't know how long the whole process will take or the exact result but the process is still taking place. If both had had the same results would of been better as I have had no problems with the one! I guess if both had done what the right did they would both be gone. The ultrasound did show real damage of the left one and I can tell a big change since the time of surgery which was 4 weeks ago today. The doctors are not quick to remove a testicle if they think there is any chance of it healing!
Best regards
Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:54 pm
by r1honour (imported)
sparkey49,
From my understanding, it's a bit of a haul to achieve the non-regeneration of testicular cells. You've apparently achieved what we've seen in others as a collapse of your remaining testicle, so patience will have to be your guide (and mine) in determining just how much overall reduction we'll see.
If you've not registered in the personals section, do so and have a look at dvdbll's pictures (he's dcballboy there). I know he's talked about extensive alcohol injections and has used CaCl a couple of times... but his results are fabulous as far as I'm concerned.
I hope mine reduce by that much over time.
Randall
Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:02 pm
by dvdbll (imported)
Hi all. An update that I went for my annual physical last week. Last year after a dozen alcohol injections, my testosterone level was in the high 200s (260 or 280, I don't remember). After a couple of small CaCl injections, my T level now is 40, which is below castrate level. I'm very pleased.
Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration
Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:24 am
by SplitDik (imported)
dvdbll (imported) wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:02 pm
Hi all. An update that I went for my annual physical last week. Last year after a dozen alcohol injections, my testosterone level was in the high 200s (260 or 280, I don't remember). After a couple of small CaCl injections, my T level now is 40, which is below castrate level. I'm very pleased.
Yes, I'm still quite convinced that CaCl is overall more effective than alcohol injections (in the sense that much fewer injections are much more likely to produce significant lasting results). However, sadly it is still pretty painful for most and there have been complications, and it is very hard to dose -- too little and the testicles won't die completely, too much and scrotum irritation and other complications can be quite serious.
Please be safe people. Don't castrate yourselves. If you're transgendered go through the proper process, if you have fetish or other obsession / sex addiction, please find other ways to come to terms with the way you are made without the self harm. The problem with non-transgender castration is that castration only solves some issues and creates new ones. The vast majority of castrated guys end up taking some HRT to offset the negatives, and while HRT might sound nice (i.e. "I can control my own dose") it means a lifetime of medication which presents problems in terms of affordability, practical control, etc.
At the very least, non-transgendered people should exhaust every other method of mitigating their issue. SSRI medications can greatly help about a quarter of people get control over their libido and fetish obsessions. Exercise and sleep can greatly help get over depression which can trigger self-harm and self-loathing. Cognitative behavior therapy can change the way you think about your sexuality -- embrace being a horn dog!
Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration
Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:59 am
by Hash (imported)
dvdbll (imported) wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:02 pm
Hi all. An update that I went for my annual physical last week. Last year after a dozen alcohol injections, my testosterone level was in the high 200s (260 or 280, I don't remember). After a couple of small CaCl injections, my T level now is 40, which is below castrate level. I'm very pleased.
dvdbll
Did your doctor recommend anything or ask you to submit to additional tests?
Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration
Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:02 am
by r1honour (imported)
Hello SplitDik,
Your warning is a noted regarding self-harm and self-loathing. Unfortunately, for a lot of us, the self-loathing is what's triggered the self-harm. Unfortunately, this rings true for me and... there's no going back from what I've already done.
I believe that goes for both of us.
In any event, in my case, I was already well trained in sterile technique for preparation and self-injection. I was completely eyes wide open regarding the risks and potential undesired consequences.
I also found a good take-away in a discussion you were involved with far back on this thread regarding dosing. I personally believe that many of the folks who have done this have dosed too aggressively. Further, some have been extremely impatient with follow-up dosing.
What's done is done for those of us who have gone forward and injected ourselves. Others who haven't would be well warned against self-injection. You're messing with some highly complex anatomy and the potential for dire consequence is great.
All that said, I'm now ten days post injection of 0.5 ml of 30% CaCl into each testicle.
Currently I have no pain, no tenderness, no loss of sleep and no impact on my activities.
While I had no natural testosterone production at the outset and am using replacement therapy to maintain a fairly low level, I have felt no impact on any libido... because I haven't had one in many years.
My only current impact with this process is nuts that remain stubbornly enlarged with fluid. The injury I've self-inflicted currently manifests as severely swollen testicles. Presently the left is more than double its original volume. The right is probably one and a half times. The swelling in both has begun to subside.
Randall
Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration
Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:40 pm
by dvdbll (imported)
Hash - no, he didn't, but he knows that I've been seeing a urologist for "testicular infections." He put me on HRT (Androgel daily) last year, which I had not taken for a couple of weeks before the blood test. I have my 6-month follow-up with the urologist on November 15, and I can confirm the lack of any good reason to keep my testicles now.
Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration
Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:21 am
by sparkey49 (imported)
r1honour
Hope all is going well!!
I am One month post operation (removal of right testicle healing going well. The left one about one one fourth to one third before injection size in the morning and by evening a little over one third the size about a normal grape size and always deformed. I can still get erections with work that don't last and no spontaneous or morning ones. Still a fair amount of ejaculate if wait a few days wife has been out of town for a bit. Was thinking the ejaculate would be more diminished but we will see. Would like other experiences and thoughts on timeline. I am not at this point willing to try injecting again now after the results of the right testicle. Maybe the dose will be sufficient 1.5ml originally which burst the right one and created the problems. Such different results between testicles.
Great Day To All