Penile shrinkage?

[mrt (imported)]

Someone did a lot of research on average penile length. For what its worth

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_penis_size

I note with great satisfaction that

"the consensus is that the average human penis is approximately 12.9–15 cm (5.1–5.9 in) in length"

and "most penises are below average in size."

On a related but makes no sense to me note - I have an email from the late Dr Spector where he stated "In general, however, taking testosterone long-term would cause shrinkage of the genitalia, including penis and testicles. "

I agree 100% with the late Doc on Testicular shrinkage and I think thats well documented but why penile shrinkage?

[JesusA (imported)]

I note with great satisfaction that

"the consensus is that the average human penis is approximately 12.9–15 cm (5.1–5.9 in) in length"

and "most penises are below average in size."

My favorite study on penis size was done at Indiana University, the home of the Kinsey Institute. It had attractive, young, female nursing students attend fraternity parties, where they asked fraternity members their penis size and THEN asked to measure it fully erect.

The measurements were almost uniformly shorter than the claimed size....

[Testman (imported)]

I am a long term testosterone user and have used at very high doses. can say that high doses will increase penis girth, and if I lower the dose to something closer to normal, it does shrink down a bit closer to what it was before I ever started taking testosterone. However, it never ever gets below that size. So I disagree about tesosterone shrinking the penis. Thats like saying steroids shrink your muscles.

[tugon (imported)]

My favorite study on penis size was done at Indiana University, the home of the Kinsey Institute. It had attractive, young, female nursing students attend fraternity parties, where they asked fraternity members their penis size and THEN asked to measure it fully erect.

The measurements were almost uniformly shorter than the claimed size....

For years I thought men were breaking off the first two inches of their rulers. Like so many things not quite as advertised.

[mrt (imported)]

I am a long term testosterone user and have used at very high doses. can say that high doses will increase penis girth, and if I lower the dose to something closer to normal, it does shrink down a bit closer to what it was before I ever started taking testosterone. However, it never ever gets below that size. So I disagree about tesosterone shrinking the penis. Thats like saying steroids shrink your muscles.

I tend to agree. I think people confuse testicular atrophy (Which DOES happen) with HRT with Penile shrinkage. However I think Jesus was asking about men who were snipped that do not use any testosterone which is a (possibly) different thing.

[kennath7 (imported)]

Good report and info thanks

5.22

6.27

4.35

8.75

8.75

4.9

3.8

5.62

5.9

4.8

5.5

5.23

Add these numbers 69.09 now divide by how many numbers 12 that gives an average of 5.75 studies do not always reflect the truth that’s why the government spends so much time and money on them

[DonK1954 (imported)]

In almost 6 years since I was neutered, my penis has shrunk from about 3 inches soft and 6 hard to 2 soft and 4 hard. Also, I can only stay hard for a minute or so. Even with stimulation (sucking, masturbation), I begin to get soft, and when I have an orgasm my penis is completely soft and back to 2 inches.

[C van D (imported)]

For one of the academic papers on the eunuch community that has now been submitted for review for publication, one of the reviewers has made a rather snarky comment that penile shrinkage after castration is not real, but only folk belief. The only academic article that I have found to date that mentions it is by C.S.Higano (Side effects of androgen deprivation therapy: Monitoring and minimizing toxicity. Urology, 61 (2003), 32-38). When contacted about her research, she said that it was only anecdotal from talking with her prostate cancer patients who had been chemically castrated.

I would like to have some REAL data to counter the comment (and to give some real information here on the Archive).

Are there any members here who have measured their penis before and after either chemical or surgical castration? If so, what was the length before and after? And, how much time elapsed between measures? Information showing no change is just as valuable as that with change. Also needed is what sort of hormone replacement therapy (if any) you have used.

Please either post your answers below or send me a Private Message. I will tally the results and let you all know.

I refer to Jesus' request for "real data" - one that I appreciate and share.

Not long ago a trawl through Google for something else entirely, hit on an article by a Dr W T Moore, part of a series on "The Psychoanalysis of the Child". Dr Moore's paper is called "The Impact of Surgery on Boys". Unfortunately I haven't read the whole text which is only available by subscription but if one of our more scholarly members could obtain a copy, it could provide a valuable source of "real data".

Dr Moore is one of the very few paediatric surgeons who has gone on record as having removed the testicles of preteen boys - for impeccable surgical reasons i.e. necrosis, which if untreated might have become a life threatening source of infection. He mentions two patients "Billy" and "Ben". (It is not impossible that there were others).

It is possible that Dr Moore's findings could either confirm or refute the following pieces of "folklore" which, with others, I am guilty of perpetuating in my search for a good story:

a) That the neutered boy's penis, no longer required for sex, retracts into his abdomen

b) That the change in the hormone balance stimulates a growth spurt

c) That, deprived of his testosterone source, the neutered boy becomes more placid and sweet-natured, and according to some Indian sources, more beautiful.

C van D

[gandalf (imported)]

Like Donk, I have gone from 6 hrd to 4. Actually 10cm which comes in at 3.8.

and when soft I have shrunk from 3.5" to 2". Actually the shrinkage does not bother me.

[feedback (imported)]

I to have lost at least 2 inches hard and as much soft.