Bruce2, Thank you for sharing with us your journey into chemical castration with DP. I have been contemplating to start this same journey, and your posts have been very valuable.

Like Bruce2, for those who have been on DP a long time, without Androcur or any other hormones, has any one developed feminization, especially development of the tits or hips? I don't mind shrinkage of testicles or penis. But, I really prefer to retain my generally male features without the developments of feminine features like tits or hips. Is DP pretty safe in this regard?

hkeunuch (imported) wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2005 1:10 pm Bruce2, Thank you for sharing with us your journey into chemical castration with DP. I have been contemplating to start this same journey, and your posts have been very valuable.

Like Bruce2, for those who have been on DP a long time, without Androcur or any other hormones, has any one developed feminization, especially development of the tits or hips? I don't mind shrinkage of testicles or penis. But, I really prefer to retain my generally male features without the developments of feminine features like tits or hips. Is DP pretty safe in this regard?

I am with you on this one. I am not particularly interested in taking on fem characteristics nor am I really interested in shrinkage. (I am too proud of my "everything is big in Texas" characteristics).

However, getting back into shape as I once was a bodybuilder, I am taking some herbal testosterone boosters and Cimony Sake...it is boosting it!!!

Studlover

Regarding feminization while on Depo Provera, here is my understanding from my research and experience:

I have not had any "feminization" but have definitely not made any progress in terms of getting in shape. I think DP generally increases appetite and one will gain a few pounds on it. Also the fatigue I have been feeling lately is not compatible at all with exercise. I can only go on the treadmill for about 20 minutes. As far as lifting weights, forget it. I have no energy or motivation to life weights.

Of all the chemical castration drugs, DP seems to be the least feminizing. Progesterone is as close to a "neutral" hormone as it gets.

I do believe it may be possible to take DP longterm on a monthly basis, and basically have little sex drive along with very little feminization. I'm just getting spooked about low energy right now, as I'm already low enough energy as it is. As much as I like being asexual, I simply must have my energy back. I dunno if it is just my particular experience with DP that has led to such low energy, or if everyone goes through a period of adjustment, as has been stated in some posts on this thread. I read somewhere that DP fools a women's body into believing it is pregnant. That's why it works as birth control for women -- they stop ovulating in the mistaken believe that they are already pregnant. So, perhaps progesterone also does this to a male's body -- to a certain degree, the male body may be in a state of "false pregnancy" which may account for my nausea and low energy.

As the time since my last injection increases, I can feel the DP "clearing out" and have had days of moderate return of energy, and I can feel a slight increase in my sex drive. Interestingly right now that return is mostly in my head -- I'm thinking about sex and looking at people in a sexual way. But my cock still just sits there limp most of the time. I've had irregular morning erections. I feel mildly horny but with no desire to "fuck" anything. I tried masterbating last night, and my cock was about 2/3 size as normal, then as I neared climax it went into a state of "full mast" which I actually enjoyed as it has been awhile since I've felt "male" in the sense of being potent.

In thinking about castration lately, I've increasingly been thinking about going the surgical route. It seems to me this is the way to go -- no messing with adding chemicals to your body -- just simply snip away your testosterone source. And having my testicles removed and having and empty sack will be a constant reminder of my eunuch status.

B2, DP is non-feminizing. You should stay on it for several years & enjoy your return to pre-pubescence.

madscientist1 (imported) wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2005 11:34 pm B2, DP is non-feminizing. You should stay on it for several years & enjoy your return to pre-pubescence.

Well I ordered some more Depo Provera a couple weeks ago, and it arrived today. After reading your quote and considering that my energy level has seemed to get more "normal" lately, I've decided to continue with my "treatment". I'm not going to inject any more than once a month though, I think i overloaded my system with three closely timed shots.

I may have caught my libido in the "nick of time" as I found myself with an erection this morning as I woke. I could feel for the past week or so that things were "coming back to life" and I certainly never want to go back to that place of being "out of control" where my actions are driven by testosterone.

I really have enjoyed being in a state of "pre-puberty" and the feeling of calmness I have achieved. For an adult male, this really is an amazing feeling. So thanks for the encouragement, after this post I'm going to slam another 150 mg of depo provera into my system. I have a feeling I'll "get back on track" very quickly as I've brought things down several notches from where I started before my depo treatments.

I'd love to hear from anyone else on Depo right now ... have you achieved sustainable "castration" without intolerable side effects?

If this shot goes well, I'm going to order a year's worth of Depo and commit myself to going at least that far with it.

bruce2 (imported) wrote: Sun Jul 10, 2005 6:35 pm I think i overloaded my system with three closely timed shots.

Actually, that initial "surge" is just what you need to "get the ball rolling", so to speak.

bruce2 (imported) wrote: Sun Jul 10, 2005 6:35 pm I may have caught my libido in the "nick of time" as I found myself with an erection this morning as I woke.

Remember, pre-pubescent boys get erections. You can get an erection from washing your penis or from rolling on it in your sleep. I frequently get erections this way but they don't last & I have no desire to masturbate. THAT is the important part.

bruce2 (imported) wrote: Sun Jul 10, 2005 6:35 pm I'd love to hear from anyone else on Depo right now ... have you achieved sustainable "castration" without intolerable side effects?

Whatever side effects you may be feeling are from "hormone shock". As your system adjusts they will disappear. I can still masturbate to orgasm but it takes alot of effort. I do this occasionally to "test" the effectiveness of DP. The longer I am on it the less desire I have.

bruce2 (imported) wrote: Sun Jul 10, 2005 6:35 pm If this shot goes well, I'm going to order a year's worth of Depo and commit myself to going at least that far with it.

Yes, keep it up. You will enjoy the results.