JIM since beeing on depo provera for the last five monthes i have noticed that when i do ejaculate i have a burning sensation. And like OLD SOFTEE i am also on paxil .JIM you didnt say what amount of estrogen you are taking.

sag111 (imported) wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2002 12:23 am JIM since beeing on depo provera for the last five monthes i have noticed that when i do ejaculate i have a burning sensation. And like OLD SOFTEE i am also on paxil .JIM you didnt say what amount of estrogen you are taking.

Sag, I'm surprised that you have a burning sensation. When does that occur? At climax? During the ejaculation? At the tip? Is that an uncomfortable burning sensation or a pleasing one? Sometimes I have enjoyed a light sting (even prior to HRT) from what I assume is various acid levels in the semen. This also occurs when not masturbating for quite some time as it seems the tissues and nerves inside the shaft aren't used to the fluids.

I've not had any stinging sensations for most of September and all of October thus far. All I produce is a drop or small flow of semi-clear fluid that has no force (to clarify my situation).

In July I started with Estro-Fem slowly. 2-mg. every other day and built up for a brief period to 4-mg. (did not sustain that very long) and then down to 2-mg. Now I will taper that off until I get 1-mg. doses (for daily) and then start tapering off that dose. As mentioned elsewhere I absolutely love the results that I've seen but breast growth -- even though I adore this -- has been too extreme for my near future.

- Jim

JIM the burning sensation that i have is during climax .It is also not very comfertable for my wife it seams it burnes her just as bad . I guess i will have to get better at oral sex. I have had brest growth but i can live with it .

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Paolo wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2002 5:22 am The problem with herbals for any relief is not only the amount of pills and the cost involved, but the problem of allergies to certain ones as well.

- As someone mentioned, you have to eat a pile of the stuff to see any results at all.

- I seriously doubt the powers of these things now, and would advise anyone using them to do so carefully.

I agree for now that the herbs don't give any immediate feminizing or sterilizing results... but I do think they are quite effective into shrinking the penis or tricking the body, in my experience. Take a lot of boron, and your sperm will become watery. Use Ovary glandulars over the long term, and watch your balls tighten up and penis eventually shrink up. Again, the effects may be psychological... I don't know.

Spirotone and estrogen is certainly not expensive. I've seen dramatic results over three months... it took a while... and now all of a sudden I have nothing to show for my climax! I am hoping to find an herbal path that continues this amazing consequence and maybe over time herbs will get the job done.

I've been tapering off the estrogen (because of breast growth) and already I notice that erections are easier to achieve. Fortunately I haven't had time to do anything with them.

- Jim

Good Morning!

Happy Thanksgiving, if you celebrate!

At this time, I begin my fifth month of ingesting estrogen and slightly less time taking Spirotone. I started my HRT in late July, so I have been taking the female hormone through August, September, October, and November = four months already! I am joyful! There were two short breaks when I stopped briefly (towards the beginning of self-medication), but I have been totally consistent since August 29th.

Per Christina’s advice, I ordered and then started with the Spirotone in early August.

Because of the drastic changes to my body, which includes the unwanted & obvious breast growth and soreness, I curtailed my estrogen dose from 2-mg. daily to 1-mg. not-quite-daily for a while. Lately I have been pleased with 1-mg.; my breasts still hurt, but I have resumed 1-mg. daily for about a week and I feel fine. I was also confused about my future, but yesterday I decided to take estrogen an additional month. All told, I will have about 42 days more of HRT, which will bring me well into the New Year 2003. If I become sterile, so be it.

I’ve found out, and most people here already know, that sterility can occur rather rapidly but obviously it depends on the person and the amount of estrogen ingested. It seems everyone agrees sterility is irreversible. Impotence can take up to two years after becoming sterile.

These thoughts are what excite me the most, and I can actually achieve a quick, fairly solid erection when pondering becoming sterile. Visual stimulation takes me a really long time to get my penis going, and it never becomes solid. I have lost length – that is obvious – regardless of how "semi-hard" my penis becomes. Ejaculations are nothing like what they used to be… as written before hardly anything comes out and there is no sense of pleasure during ejaculation -- the movement of fluid through penis and tip. Of course I still feel the internal climax and expect a volume of fluid to spurt out that doesn't happen. That is gone, perhaps forever. The last couple ejaculations have resulted in a slight increase in ejaculate – whatever it is.

I believe that if I had another man’s penis to play with and suck, I would soon lose interest in my own. This activity would be very exciting however so I’m not sure how I would react. Although I would say my libido is diminished, thoughts can still trigger sexual excitement for me. Of course I love observing pretty Women and enjoy their appearance. I've even started looking at white Women again -- what could that be the result of?

As I read a long time ago, altering the body with female hormones can cause nasal congestion and I’ve certainly had that for a long time! I welcomed it at first because I knew my body was changing but it became irritating to wake up each and every day being clogged up. This morning I feel great and I am thinking that I’ve settled on the perfect dose – congestion went away shortly after I went daily with 1-mg. estrogen.

We’ll see what happens next.

- Jim

Good Morning!

Well, my body has finally succumbed to a cold, a head cold it seems for now. This could not have happened at a worse time (when is a good time?). I am really dragging -- lucky for me I had the weekend off -- my first full weekend since the beginning of September.

Anyway, my "package" this A.M. is totally small and smooth. It's almost not even there. I am wondering if the cold has affected my genitals and given me a temporary flat benefit. I've been conscious of the smaller, smaller package since prior to summer -- as I've written here about it.

There are other members on HRT and Spirotone. Any progress with shrinking testicles, penis, and do you also discover more dramatic results when sick? Hopefully, no one else will get sick but I'm curious anyway.

Have a great day -- and good health to all!

- Jim

To All:

I have been in touch with Christina via Private Messages once in a while to keep her informed of my progress and to read about her.

Basically, I was on solid estrogen therapy with Spirotone for 6½ months. I had no fear of becoming sterile or impotent. What did bother me was getting huge breasts and I almost could not conceal them. I did inquire about sports bras, but decided that I would cease taking the estrogen, and Spirotone, instead. Also, I began to worry that I would not have children.

For the last week in January and all of February I laid off the hormone and tapered off with Spirotone. It wasn't too long and I became a whack-off monster. Nocturnal erections also started again. Eventualy I was masturbating daily and enjoying it. I could get a solid penis and have ejaculate, although nothing near the volume like it was before. There is/was not much force, either, although I felt okay during climax.

This weekend I started taking the estrogen again and I felt better immediately (i.e., today). I am wondering if there is a dose that could prevent me from being so drawn towards masturbating. Of course if I take this constantly I will probably be sterile in no time.

Just an FYI, and if anyone has suggestions, let me know.

Thank you,

- Jim

Hello Jim,

It's nice to hear from you again. It seems you are caught between a rock and a hard place (no pun intended) with your desire to lose a high libido and still retain sterility. I imagine this is very frustrating for you to know there is a way to kill the libido, but the side effects are unwanted. There are only two options I can think of that may offer hope for you. One, drop the estrogen and remain on the spiro at a higher dose (which still may cause sterility). Two, seek information on other types of drugs such as the ones used for depression that have side effects related to sexuality. I have read a few posts here on the Archives that mention sexual side effects of these drugs, (personally, I have no experience with them) and would think that this may be a better choice for you. I hope you find a solution soon that fits your situation without compromising you sterility. I wouldn't want for you to find that by achieving your desire, you had caused permanent unwanted damage to yourself.

Be careful, be cautious and above all be safe.

Hugs

has improved my sense of well-being. It may help me maintain muscle mass. It seems to help my sexual organs look larger. It has not, it seems, improved libido or my ability to obtain organsms.

Looking over old posts that I made, I apparently enjoyed some aspects of low testosterone, but now I enjoy recovery and wish for greater recovery.

I wonder how many people who visit this board desire eunuch status and how many have had it inflicted upon them.

Blaise (imported) wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2003 1:41 pm I wonder how many people who visit this board desire eunuch status and how many have had it inflicted upon them.

In my case it was desired and, thanks to Dr. Spector, obtained.