Re: Saying goodbye at the introductions
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:40 pm
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Transward
Hey, nice, you copied my PM to Kizahakan. I thought they were private.
Joking of course, and it would have been okay if you read them and find out that the two of us do not have problems with each other. I like to consider him as a friend.
About NUjij.....
It is a forum connected to www.nu.nl one of the famous Dutch news sites
People can bring in articles from different newspapers and sites, and discus about it.
A few years ago, if you opened a thread about anything that had to do with abuse of children, you would find only a big shouting. ........
He should be hanged at a high tree (by his balls). No cut them of with a rusty knife and let him bleed to death. Lock him up and throw the key away....
I think I don't need to repeat them all
If I started a posting with: I am one of them... several times it also was the last posting as my account got closed by the moderators. So I sneaked in, and let them find out for themselves.
Yep, there sure is a change. Last months, I didn't get kicked out anymore by the moderators, the tone of the threads is changing
But there is a far more beautiful side. Sure I've been threaten with death several times, but that was their problem. It would have been okay to me.
But I also found respect, and many times there were private emails and long time private chats. We were talking, and that is a two way ticket.
Yeah, I might have changed that tone in those postings, but I also got a lot of things back to think about. Several times, after hours of chat, I got the stories from victims, stories that can hit you to the bone. They are hard to forget, and who except for the victim would want to forget. A few times people admit that it was the first time ever that they told their story, and that it was a relief.
I have no administration I can check, but if you ask how many hours all together I spend doing this.....You end up with several months
I have learned a lot. I sure know that there are many kinds of victims, and like all people, every-one is a special case. In some threads before, I was fucking up the discussion a bit, and I sure do know a lot of them being victims. In one thread I seemed to have a little fight with Kizahakan, and they showed up.
They do exist, they are alive, a world full of wounded souls
But the most beautiful part for me..... Starting anonymous on the internet, having a big mouth, it brought back social control. The meaning of others.
More and more this also came in to my real life. If I showed my idea's, I got confronted with the view of others.
Did you realize this background Kristoff, I hope you can understand
There is a big difference between fighting something while blocking your feelings on the one side, and being able to handle your problems, open to talk about it and happy if you can help others.
I cannot tell exactly who I am, because that is still changing every day, and most certainly not in a bad direction (Who could go worse)
I guess I will spend a lot more hours doing this. If you feel that your hate has changed in to love, who the hell would want to stop.
By the way, there is a real nice question in that Dutch part. If people want, I will try to translate the whole thread, but that one I guess would be nice to ask here and now:
In the swimming pool, I noticed a young pool guard. I noticed him because I was not the only one who enjoyed the game of a cute and beautiful blond boy (about 10 years) The pool guard couldn't keep his eyes(and hands) of, and his job should be to take care of all, not one. Let me say it in a short way: I could read his feelings. What can I do / should I do?
Go to see him and tell him he should take care, about all and special about himself....It sure would be an insult and I can see the scene I would get.
If I do nothing, in time this young pool guard will become a victim of his own feelings, and I will be guilty for more other victims by doing nothing.
What do you think, should I turn away, leave this young adult to his own problems. In fact, if he is one of them, does he deserve any warnings / help?
That was the question.
In the next weeks I will watch careful and find me a chance for a hint to that guard about any beautiful boy(s) If I tell him about having an implant.....
It could be my big mouth again. Not caring about the consequences
Or it could be the love for others, offering that young guard a chance, and in a way that I take the risks. (Maybe I can end up with a ban for the pool)
I am going to find my way to act...that is my answer.
It would sure not be the first time
But that leaves the other question open: What do you really think,
that I don't care about the consequences, or that I love and care more about other people then about some small problems to myself?
You can find that answer in all my postings.....
loveUall
Jean
Transward
Hey, nice, you copied my PM to Kizahakan. I thought they were private.
Joking of course, and it would have been okay if you read them and find out that the two of us do not have problems with each other. I like to consider him as a friend.
About NUjij.....
It is a forum connected to www.nu.nl one of the famous Dutch news sites
People can bring in articles from different newspapers and sites, and discus about it.
A few years ago, if you opened a thread about anything that had to do with abuse of children, you would find only a big shouting. ........
He should be hanged at a high tree (by his balls). No cut them of with a rusty knife and let him bleed to death. Lock him up and throw the key away....
I think I don't need to repeat them all
If I started a posting with: I am one of them... several times it also was the last posting as my account got closed by the moderators. So I sneaked in, and let them find out for themselves.
Yep, there sure is a change. Last months, I didn't get kicked out anymore by the moderators, the tone of the threads is changing
But there is a far more beautiful side. Sure I've been threaten with death several times, but that was their problem. It would have been okay to me.
But I also found respect, and many times there were private emails and long time private chats. We were talking, and that is a two way ticket.
Yeah, I might have changed that tone in those postings, but I also got a lot of things back to think about. Several times, after hours of chat, I got the stories from victims, stories that can hit you to the bone. They are hard to forget, and who except for the victim would want to forget. A few times people admit that it was the first time ever that they told their story, and that it was a relief.
I have no administration I can check, but if you ask how many hours all together I spend doing this.....You end up with several months
I have learned a lot. I sure know that there are many kinds of victims, and like all people, every-one is a special case. In some threads before, I was fucking up the discussion a bit, and I sure do know a lot of them being victims. In one thread I seemed to have a little fight with Kizahakan, and they showed up.
They do exist, they are alive, a world full of wounded souls
But the most beautiful part for me..... Starting anonymous on the internet, having a big mouth, it brought back social control. The meaning of others.
More and more this also came in to my real life. If I showed my idea's, I got confronted with the view of others.
Did you realize this background Kristoff, I hope you can understand
There is a big difference between fighting something while blocking your feelings on the one side, and being able to handle your problems, open to talk about it and happy if you can help others.
I cannot tell exactly who I am, because that is still changing every day, and most certainly not in a bad direction (Who could go worse)
I guess I will spend a lot more hours doing this. If you feel that your hate has changed in to love, who the hell would want to stop.
By the way, there is a real nice question in that Dutch part. If people want, I will try to translate the whole thread, but that one I guess would be nice to ask here and now:
In the swimming pool, I noticed a young pool guard. I noticed him because I was not the only one who enjoyed the game of a cute and beautiful blond boy (about 10 years) The pool guard couldn't keep his eyes(and hands) of, and his job should be to take care of all, not one. Let me say it in a short way: I could read his feelings. What can I do / should I do?
Go to see him and tell him he should take care, about all and special about himself....It sure would be an insult and I can see the scene I would get.
If I do nothing, in time this young pool guard will become a victim of his own feelings, and I will be guilty for more other victims by doing nothing.
What do you think, should I turn away, leave this young adult to his own problems. In fact, if he is one of them, does he deserve any warnings / help?
That was the question.
In the next weeks I will watch careful and find me a chance for a hint to that guard about any beautiful boy(s) If I tell him about having an implant.....
It could be my big mouth again. Not caring about the consequences
Or it could be the love for others, offering that young guard a chance, and in a way that I take the risks. (Maybe I can end up with a ban for the pool)
I am going to find my way to act...that is my answer.
It would sure not be the first time
But that leaves the other question open: What do you really think,
that I don't care about the consequences, or that I love and care more about other people then about some small problems to myself?
You can find that answer in all my postings.....
loveUall
Jean