castreer pedofiel

[nullorchis (imported)]

Jean.

Nothing wrong with seeking professional help. Sometimes when we can't pull ourself out of the mud, and others are throwing us a rope, we need to be proactive and grab ahold of the rope and participate in being rescued. Best of success to you.

[Kangan (imported)]

Wow! Red lights, blue lights, sirens, and even a SWAT team responded to this thread!

Firstly, I would caution those who seek revenge. This is not a healthy idea and will only cause more trouble. Enough said.

Secondly, no one can know the mind of a sexual pervert except that person himself. The point was made that not all sexual predators want to be cured. This is quite true, as a sort of self-justification fantasy can set in such as "I only was giving love and affection" and the like. However, many sexual predators do want to control their behavior. It may take an arrest and a court appearance to make them wake up to the reality of what they have done and realize that their behavior has been unacceptable and illegal. These persons can be helped as they have already taken the first step toward recovery.

Thirdly, surgical castration is only one more step towards recovery. Suitable psychotherapy and supervision (probation or confinement) is needed. From personal experience, I find that the removal of my testicles has had a dramatic effect upon my thoughts and emotions. It is amazing to discover how much of a man's behavior is controlled by Testosterone!

Finally - it take "balls" to admit to being a sexual predator. By admitting it, that person has taken a major step towards ending this dangerous behavior.

Let's not confuse the issue by bringing female sexual predators into this discussion. The majority of sexual predators are male.

Offering the choice of castration or prison to a convicted sex offender is a good idea, but that choice cannot be "voluntary" under the circumstances. It is no more a "voluntary" choice than that of a typical plea bargain to gain a shortened sentence in lieu of a lengthy and expensive trial.

I vote for castration of sex offenders. It works!

[Taylor (imported)]

First of all nomorehotbutt, I wasn't attacking you personally; I was making a statement that I will continue to make and that child sexual predators should be executed. As for your reaction, methinks thou doth protest too much.

We are hearing only nomorehotbutt's side of the story, we are not seeing police reports, or any investigative reports or any neutral information about the incident aluded to. There is no a criminal history (or lack thereof) available, nor is there any documentation about a person's history from which to character can be ascertained and so all must be viewed with a jaundiced eye.

My inclination is to give the benefit of doubt. However, when it comes to CONVICTED molesters, doubt has been removed.

Now, don't everyone get their panties in a bind. Say some guy is taking a piss in an ally behind a bar and an ankle-biter somehow see's the guy's pee-pee? Come on! Some common sense tells us that there is no intent or crime committed.

Personally, I can't stand children. They are sticky, smell bad and pick their noses.

As for being an asshole? They're just like opinions.

There are others who have given excellent advice on this thread and I hope you follow it. If you have a problem or even think you have a problem, get help before it's too late.

T.

[Kangan (imported)]

First of all nomorehotbutt, I wasn't attacking you personally; I was making a statement that I will continue to make and that child sexual predators should be executed. As for your reaction, methinks thou doth protest too much.

My inclination is to give the benefit of doubt. However, when it comes to CONVICTED molesters, doubt has been removed.

Personally, I can't stand children. They are sticky, smell bad and pick their noses.

There are others who have given excellent advice on this thread and I hope you follow it. If you have a problem or even think you have a problem, get help before it's too late.

T.

I'd have to disagree about summary executions for child molesters (or any other kind of criminal, for that matter).

You are correct about children, however.

[Jean Op den Kamp (imported)]

First of all nomorehotbutt, I wasn't attacking you personally; I was making a statement that I will continue to make and that child sexual predators should be executed. As for your reaction, methinks thou doth protest too much.

We are hearing only nomorehotbutt's side of the story, we are not seeing police reports, or any investigative reports or any neutral information about the incident aluded to. There is no a criminal history (or lack thereof) available, nor is there any documentation about a person's history from which to character can be ascertained and so all must be viewed with a jaundiced eye.

My inclination is to give the benefit of doubt. However, when it comes to CONVICTED molesters, doubt has been removed.

Now, don't everyone get their panties in a bind. Say some guy is taking a piss in an ally behind a bar and an ankle-biter somehow see's the guy's pee-pee? Come on! Some common sense tells us that there is no intent or crime committed.

Personally, I can't stand children. They are sticky, smell bad and pick their noses.

As for being an asshole? They're just like opinions.

There are others who have given excellent advice on this thread and I hope you follow it. If you have a problem or even think you have a problem, get help before it's too late.

T.

You can find proof just in the thread.....

It is bad for victims if the offender doesn't explain, shows no regrets.....

and if I want to be there any moment for them if they could need me, I am the one who is being attacked for that.

I don't see any more what should be a good way, I feel sick this moment about myself and about a lot of reactions. That is no complain, I needed something to think about and I was asking for it.

I know that castration is no cure, at least it will not change my feelings toward children. It was me who told that to my family doctor before I asked for a referral. Somebody today in a PM called my behavior passive aggression. He is so right. I need to get rid of this aggression if I want to go on with my life

Androcur has lowered it just a little, and it would be great to understand if castration will do the job. (I don't care the fuck about loosing my sex drive)

I don't know why,....if I am with children, my aggression is gone, and I guess that is the real reason why I am attracted to them. Loosing that aggression feels so great, why can't I find it in a normal way

methinks thou doth protest too much.

that sounds a lot better then shooting me

Thanks for your reaction

Jean

[Paolo]

No more personal attacks.

Period.

Attack the issue, not one another.

[chilliwilli (imported)]

No more personal attacks.

Period.

Attack the issue, not one another.

Totally agree.

Nobody deserves the death penalty, nor should any government have the right to end life. A molester should have the right to seek out castration services. Removing testosterone has been shown to cause a drastric reduction in recidivism. in fact, all violent offenders should be offered castration, whereas rapists and pedophiles should have that as a requirement for release on a first offense.

Not an olive branch, just a fair balanced opinion.

chilli-

[eefje46 (imported)]

This was just shouting from a Dutch politica who want to have attention. She is scoring low in the polls.

And, when someone ever do thinghs to my kids, and i wil find out who it was he, she or it, neighbour, family I cant stand for my doing then.

thats all i have to say about this.

[Jean Op den Kamp (imported)]

No more personal attacks.

Period.

Attack the issue, not one another.

Paolo,

I should agree, I want to agree but I get PM's and email from other members who are afraid of this bunch of idiots.

They might think they are just great, judging every one in the same direction, just because maybe they themselves came up to a person who only loved himself. I am angry Paolo, and I think it would be good to let it out. Don't know, know nothing for sure this moment

Jean

[nullorchis (imported)]

Seems to me that different types of illegal behavior require different types of treatment.

There are acts where a person is sane and either commits a crime against property, or against a person or persons.

Crimes against persons might range from robbery, injury, abuse, death, etc.

Such people are criminals and should go to prison to both punish them and protect society from them.

Then there are acts from a mentally deficient or insane person. They may or may not know they are doing wrong, but they just can't control themselves.

Such behavior might be against property (shoplifting) or against people (attacks, abuse, etc.)

I don't think the mentally deficient or insane person should be in an ordinary prison with sane violent or non-violent criminals; the two types are apples and oranges. And due to their mental shortcomings, it hardly seems civilized to execute insane or mentally deficient people like they were a mad dog or physically castrate them like they were a piece of livestock. These people are incapable of controlling themselves and they need to be removed from society for the protection of society, and secondly placed in a facility that protects them and attempts fix them. It is easy to hate, despise, and want justice against a sane person. But when someone is insane or severely mentally deficient (as are all peeping toms, molesters, and the like) treating them as they were an ordinary sane criminal seems quite inappropriate.

To remain a higher level civilized society I think we need to separate ourselves from the mentality of "if it moves shoot it". But as civilized beings we DO need to be proactive and take necessary steps to protect all members of society from anyone who would cause harm, loss, or damage to property or people.