• Taming Puberty.

Posted: **Fri Feb 14, 2003 10:39 am**

plezherus (imported) wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2002 6:10 pm It would be nice to see the introduction of the eunuch lifestyle into the public school system. Young boys may want to seek castration prior to puberty. Having the subject introduced at this early age would allow the individual to discuss with their parents the viablity of castration before the changes of puberty have begun.

-plezherus

For what? To keep them singing soprano forever?

Posted: **Sat Feb 15, 2003 1:18 am**

Soley to provide correct information, only women and girls sing soprano.

Boys voices are "treble" until they break. Many people much prefer the purity of a good treble voice which is clear and

"heavenly". Sporano's have voices, which whilst they sing the same notes have a totally different tonal quality.

I was once a choirboy (a long time ago) and there was fierce argument across many choirs to keep them, all male.

In other words, no sporanos and only boy trebles.

Political correctness and declining interest in church music has meant that an increasing number of choirs now have soprano's too. For many listeners, this is a retrograde step and nothing

beats the sound of all male choirs - trebles/altos through to those who sing bass. It's not meant as a misogynist comment,

simply a viewpoint. Once again, to point the main fact out -

soprano's are women, boys sing treble until puberty intervenes.

Posted: **Mon Feb 09, 2004 12:49 pm**

plezherus (imported) wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2002 6:10 pm It would be nice to see the introduction of the eunuch lifestyle into the public school system. Young boys may want to seek castration prior to puberty. Having the subject introduced at this early age would allow the individual to discuss with their parents the viablity of castration before the changes of puberty have begun.

-plezherus

I fully agree that in an ideal future world, pre-puberty castration for boys would be a completely normal option for boys that would be part of sex education classes in school and a matter for normal discussion by parents. Of course in a really ideal future world, all men would choose to be castrated anyway. Regards, Strassenbahn.

Posted: **Tue Feb 10, 2004 7:07 am**

Dave (imported) wrote: Fri Jun 21, 2002 5:29 pm If you are raising the child as a boy, and I assume that even without testicles he has a penis, then it would be natural for him to go through puberty at the same time as other boys he knows.

It's not so much that his boyfriends tease and abuse him, it's all part of growing up. Boys see others getting hairy and stronger and they want to be just like that.

You must remember that not everyone has trouble growing up even with all those hormones rampaging around the body.

Dave

As one of those that was presumed at the time to be a 'late bloomer,' I can say that my own personal ambitions were to be like the other kids. In my case, any special treatments were avoided when I finally began to exhibit the signs of puberty at age 15. I think I actually began earlier than that (raging and frequent hard-ons and wet dreams), but my pubes didn't begin to sprout any hair 'til then.

Posted: **Tue Feb 10, 2004 5:11 pm**

strassenbahn (imported) wrote: Mon Feb 09, 2004 12:49 pm I fully agree that in an ideal future world, pre-puberty castration for boys would be a completely normal option for boys that would be part of sex education classes in school and a matter for normal discussion by parents.

I would have gone for this option, had it been offered to me when I was a boy!

Posted: **Wed Feb 11, 2004 10:10 am**

Sac_mec (imported) wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2003 1:18 am Soley to provide correct information, only women and girls sing soprano.

Boys voices are "treble" until they break. Many people much prefer the purity of a good treble voice which is clear and

"heavenly". Sporano's have voices, which whilst they sing the same notes have a totally different tonal quality.

I was once a choirboy (a long time ago) and there was fierce argument across many choirs to keep them, all male.

In other words, no sporanos and only boy trebles.

Political correctness and declining interest in church music has meant that an increasing number of choirs now have soprano's too. For many listeners, this is a retrograde step and nothing

beats the sound of all male choirs - trebles/altos through to those who sing bass. It's not meant as a misogynist comment,

simply a viewpoint. Once again, to point the main fact out -

soprano's are women, boys sing treble until puberty intervenes.

There still is fierce arguement to keep Church Choirs male especially Cathedral Choirs, good to hear that there is still support for this view from the UK. As for treble boys and soprano (other species!) I am reminded that boys in a golden age of recording in the 1930's were referred to "Boy Sopranos" , perhaps the treble distiction is relatively modern. The rotten bit about all this, seems to be that those awful Cathedral Choirs that have let the side down by admitting girl singers actually call girlies trebles too. Serves 'em right I suppose.

Quillman UK

Posted: **Thu Feb 19, 2004 12:46 pm**

ATTENTION!!

I say give the boys (and girls) a Gross of Condoms a month, instructions on safe sex and turn them loose on the world.

Anti-androgens are not realistic. Y'all are not reality-based.

Short of cutting off the necessary parts ya can't keep people from fucking.

...and it is good thing...

A-1

Posted: **Sun Feb 29, 2004 2:55 pm**

I cannot think of anything that is on par with a good fuck!!!!!

Posted: **Wed Mar 10, 2004 7:02 pm**

A-1 has the point, the vast majority of the world's people want sex, simple, plain, vanilla sex. Which is a grand treat. What we need is birth control, diease prevention, and sex ed which features both regular orgies and straight, realistic talk about both delights

and consequinces.

Moreover, teaching kids that some folks are just different, and you can't change that and it's stupid to be cruel, would help.

As to Mad Scientist's origional post, frankly all reasearch shows that early puberty tends to be less stressful on males. If you were going to somehow retool puberty for males, getting everybody to start at the same time and having it be a longer mellower process would probably be the way to go. However, reality oriented sex ed would be best.

Posted: **Wed Mar 10, 2004 7:36 pm**

I think it should be up to the parents. Just as they have the right to choose circumcision, religion, schools, foods, where to live, etc. I believe they also have the right to decide whether or not they want grandchildren, just as they have a right to decide if they want children. Just as they have the right to argue over the clothing and hairstyles they want, etc. They should be able to do the same about sterilty, castration, etc. I don't see what the big todo is. Some people are male some female, some are tall some short, some are sexual some not, some are big some small, some are circumcised some not, some are black some are white, some are eunuchs some not, and on and on and on. No one can have it all or both ways. And I think it is up to the parents to make those how's, when's, why's and where's decisions. And I think it would be beneficial to the acceptance of diversity of all human kind.

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