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Re: What kind of employment, eunuch?
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:59 pm
by kristoff
cordonone (imported) wrote: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:11 am
Not sure what all the "CAPS" and "!!!" are all about, nor am I exactly clear on the tone of your questions that seems to assume I'm a dolt, but the original poster never described where they lived, on what is an international board. I see from the poster's profile that the residence is in the US, which tends to be friendlier than other countries when it comes to litigation and rewards under litigation, but by no means a sure thing. Finally, it's not all that clear to me how aggressively the Bush "Justice" Department pursues these matters, especially in relation to people who are "different than them."
In general, in cases like this, the defendants tend to have very big pockets and the plaintiffs usually have to make many difficult decisions at the outset, not the least of which is how much of their privacy they want to give up. So, implying that the suit itself, let alone its success, is as straightforward a matter as you suggest is probably not consistent with what our plaintiff would find in this case.
I see that you have a lot more posts than I do and I clearly have to acknowledge and respect that fact and experience, but in the future if you want to correct what you think is a mistake I have made, how about doing it on the assumption that I'm a reasonable and thoughtful observer and not an idiot?
I guess you've been "snipped" A-1.
Actually the references are to HIPPA - the US Government's law regarding medical privacy and information disclosure, generally as involves medical personnel, clinics, the industry, etc. Generally, HIPPA is ignored by most private companies - for the most part it doesnt apply to them, and they know it. Z's private employer disclosed medical information as I understand from what he wrote. Very difficult to pursue under HIPPA. Easier under extant privacy laws. The big "however," though, is that for someone like him to pursue such a matter would be cost prohibitive, extremely unlikely that an attorney would take it on contingency fee, and would require probably in the tens of thousands of US dollars to pursue, payable in advance as we proceed. Most discussions and threats of lawsuits, unless particularly egregious, usually fall into the same type of category. Most such discussion is pointless, save for the fact that it might make someone feel better for a moment. In Z's case, Were I there I would simply walk out if I could afford to do so, and look for employment elsewhere. That might not be an option, and it may very well be that one needs must suffer a difficult situation until such time as an escape can be effected.
Re: What kind of employment, eunuch?
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:03 am
by homptydumpty (imported)
kristoff wrote: Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:59 pm
Most such discussion is pointless, save for the fact that it might make someone feel better for a moment. In Z's case, Were I there I would simply walk out if I could afford to do so, and look for employment elsewhere. That might not be an option, and it may very well be that one needs must suffer a difficult situation until such time as an escape can be effected.
Thank you for backing this point. I did not have the desire to loose a job i had relocated for, also i trained for and had already put so many hours into...
the money of course was a factor as well.
I stuck it out & now the issue seems to be coming full circle...I fear my employer is simply waiting to document a legit reason to fire me.
Re: What kind of employment, eunuch?
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:33 pm
by chilliwilli (imported)
Well...I think found the ultimate job for a eunuch....executioner.
Eunuchs, unable to create life, could create death, an almost equally powerful state of being. Now bare with me on this one...and please, please do not try this at home, it should only be contimplated by highly trained qualified professionals.
I'd laid several traps for that mouse and eventually caught him. He had set up shop in a wall right next to my computer. I invested alot of time and freaked about the possiblity of a litter of mice and the ever increasing size of the hole. My mind jumped to graphic images of the mice jumping in and out of the hole. Lucky I had other distractions. Anyway, the sticky pad got him, she worked perfectly. I felt a huge sense of accomplishment flinging his corpse fixed firmly to the glue pad into the bin and rode off for my next conquest....to brighten the daze of others...to find meaning in life...to walk my tiny chihuahua...
So that's my final answer...executioner...so just fuckin' do me and get it over with you fucker, your not even a man! HHHHHHEEEEEEE
chilli in chains-
Re: What kind of employment, eunuch?
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:03 pm
by twaddler (imported)
chilliwilli (imported) wrote: Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:33 pm
I'd laid several traps for that mouse and eventually caught him. He had set up shop in a wall right next to my computer. I invested alot of time and freaked about the possiblity of a litter of mice and the ever increasing size of the hole. My mind jumped to graphic images of the mice jumping in and out of the hole.
I thought I had mice in my wall once... turned out to be hornets.
Re: What kind of employment, eunuch?
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 7:26 pm
by chilliwilli (imported)
twaddler (imported) wrote: Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:03 pm
I thought I had mice in my wall once... turned out to be hornets.
I'll manage, just sit back and guide the process. Maybe I'll complain about the horrific working conditions and bouts of nausea. Perhaps a prayer to rid the home of the wretched pests?
What a great f'n job.
chili-
Re: What kind of employment, eunuch?
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:14 pm
by FianceeUvBigGuy (imported)
chilliwilli (imported) wrote: Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:33 pm
Well...I think found the ultimate job for a eunuch....executioner.
Chillster,
In fact, eunuchs WERE retained as "Private" executioners in certain ancient cultures; Imperial China to name but one.
In the book "Byzantium", there is much mention of eunuchs and castration, including a "scene" where a man is castrated in the Neorium (a very bad place) by eunuchs.
From what I've learned since my "Castration Fascination" took hold eunuchs took great pleasure in castrating other men, especially if the victim was someone who had mistreated eunuchs in the past. Someone might write a story for the EA based on that.
I doubt I can remember the source but I once received an emailed tale wherein someone was to be castrated for treason, this being set in 17th Century Europe or England...can't recall 'zackly where. The executioner was not a eunuch but he had two very young apprentices who were eunuchs.
The two eunuchs had been castrated as punishment for some sexual misdeeds and after that was done the very same executioner who'd castrated them "hired" them as assistants AND playthings.
Anyway, as the victim was being prepared...shaved, washed, etc, in some dreary chamber he was seduced into one last fling involving the executioner and the two eunuchs.
I'll try to find the tale and post it here.
Best to all,
Yoli
And so to bed.
Re: What kind of employment, eunuch?
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 2:15 am
by Lesley (imported)
homptydumpty (imported) wrote: Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:03 am
Thank you for backing this point. I did not have the desire to loose a job i had relocated for, also i trained for and had already put so many hours into...
the money of course was a factor as well.
I stuck it out & now the issue seems to be coming full circle...I fear my employer is simply waiting to document a legit reason to fire me.
Humptydumpty,
If you trained for a job that your employer needs you for and there is a skills shortage for it, then he will not fire you in a hurry.
Here in Australia there is a great skills shortage and if the skill you trained for is in demand here then you would have no trouble holding on to your job.
What is your job description anyway?
Re: What kind of employment, eunuch?
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 6:09 am
by considering (imported)
It's distressing to think that Eunuchs comprise a "special" group when it comes to work. When one applies for a job it's with the understanding that you feel you are capable of doing it. At some point during the intake process it may be found that this isn't correct and it would be necessary to back out. An employer doesn't want someone who cannot do what is necessary.
I understand that there may be an unfortunate "stigma" applied by many to being a Eunuch but no advertisements I've read say, "Eunuchs need not apply". Clearly being a freelance sperm donor is out of the question but not much else it. As has been mentioned, due to a possible lack of strength, certain occupations may not be readily open but, to me, the larger issue revolves around what you are prepared by education and experience to do. If you weren't trained as a physician then now isn't the time to decide you are one-there are legalities involved here. But if you were an attorney or an accountant, worked in a market or a department store, these skills have nothing to do with your status as a Eunuch. I'm often asked to speak with the young of my friends, to suggest to them educational courses they might follow. The parents of these young people are less than happy when they find I've told their offspring to "learn to do something, go to trade school, work at something before entering college or university." But I believe I'm correct. I got a Doctorate in Physics (Go Trojans, Fight On!) but didn't know how to change a tyre or mow a lawn. As is often mentioned, service industries are always looking for people. If you're so inclined and like the atmosphere, learn to be a dealer or a croupier. There are casinos everywhere now.
But the first thing is to not confuse being a Eunuch with delineating what you can or should do. Keep in mind there are far more people who have become Eunuchs for medical reasons than out of choice and one suspects that no one said to them, "You've got to change your career now." It may be that you wish to tell people about this other form of normalcy and, as with any announcement that isn't routine, there may be consequences. Good or bad. But one of the things that's mentioned is harassment. That cannot exist and must be dealt with immediately and conclusively. This is a matter of standing up for your rights as a person, not as a Eunuch. It may be that you have concerns about too many others knowing what is certainly a private issue, but there it is. To expose yourself to comment for a few moments is better than living for long periods in situations that shouldn't exist and become untenable. If you give up, not only are you denying yourself, but all others who have differences and lack the fortitude to defend themselves. There are agencies that deal with this problems; Use them.
Before One August I will have become a Eunuch in the safe, sensible way. In a hospital with a board certified surgeon.
Re: What kind of employment, eunuch?
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 1:12 pm
by chilliwilli (imported)
Yoli-
OK maam....but how long do I have to stir. I have to go p'up some metal (alluminum) and the seller closes at 5pm. I know I don't want to get locked in/out with so much to do!
chilli-Beads of sweat on forhead.
(I'm building a frame for behind the lattice, which screens the jaccuzi. Several small pots are going to sit in rings of aluminum. The pots themselves are a rusted steel, bought at a mexican junk store. So they have a Moorish influence very sexy indeed. Anyway, not only does the lattice with ivy screen the tub, it also hides the airconditioner. So behind the tub, on these aluminum rings, inside peened iron pots over the AC will sit cradled... succulents! PERFECT! They can handle the hot breezes from the AC unit, have all kinds of different morphology, and the colors are absolutey amazing! Sure there prickly and have tuff hides...but chilli can handle it...chilli is sooooo....VERY SCARY....hhhmmm)
Re: What kind of employment, eunuch?
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:43 pm
by chilliwilli (imported)
AHHH-
Fuck work, I'm going to work on my tan, enjoy a nice dinner in the cool afternoon, chit chat a bit then go lay in the jacuzzi....I feel myself getting fatter already. Ahhhh if only everyone new the life of a eunuch could be this good.
always ready for more use and abuse
chilli-