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Re: How to PISS off a Christian...

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 2:07 am
by IbPervert (imported)
A-1 (imported) wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:07 pm what is good or bad? LEARN WHO YOU ARE DEALING WITH AND BE CAREFUL WHO YOU JUDGE!

What is good or bad you ask? It is very simple....

Good people feel guilty, and Bad people do not. That is how you know.

A good person will feel guilty about steeling a candy bar, but a bad person could kill 100 people and want more.

Religion is notabout worshiping God! Religion is about being involved with a community of like minded people. 💡

Re: How to PISS off a Christian...

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:37 am
by OneBallBoi (imported)
I don't understand you people at all. Why want to piss off a person unless you really don't like them? There are a few Christians in this group: Sag, Plix, Ken_SD, Luvpain99 and myself just for starters. How can you look at a beautiful world such as we have and not believe there is a higher power that created it. The majesty of Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, The Black Hills, White Sands Desert, Rocky Mountains, etc. Things don't just happen by chance all the time. I am sorry, but as a Christian, I look at this thread as very insulting. I have passed by it numerous time and let it go, finally I had to state my thoughts. I am disappointed.

Re: How to PISS off a Christian...

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:53 am
by Riverwind (imported)
OOB, I am sorry.

River

Re: How to PISS off a Christian...

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:25 am
by IbPervert (imported)
OneBallBoi (imported) wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:37 am I don't understand you people at all. Why want to piss off a person unless you really don't like them? There are a few Christians in this group: Sag, Plix, Ken_SD, Luvpain99 and myself just for starters. How can you look at a beautiful world such as we have and not believe there is a higher power that created it. The majesty of Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, The Black Hills, White Sands Desert, Rocky Mountains, etc. Things don't just happen by chance all the time. I am sorry, but as a Christian, I look at this thread as very insulting. I have passed by it numerous time and let it go, finally I had to state my thoughts. I am disappointed.

Perhaps it is centuries of forced conversions into the faith...

or maybe trying to intimidate people into believing in only the "Christian" way to heaven.

How about the guilt factor that is traditionally shoved down peoples throats to get people to believe in the "Christian" way of thinking.

As for myself the Mormon faith told me that I would go to hell and there was only one sin worse then being Gay and that was murder. That was very difficult on me and made my life even harder.

Personally, I believe that the message of Jesus was twisted into something that it is not, and that if he was on Earth today he would be leading the charge to kick out those that twisted his message.

Re: How to PISS off a Christian...

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 1:07 pm
by A-1 (imported)
OneBallBoi (imported) wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:37 am I don't understand you people at all. Why want to piss off a person unless you really don't like them? There are a few Christians in this group: Sag, Plix, Ken_SD, Luvpain99 and myself just for starters. How can you look at a beautiful world such as we have and not believe there is a higher power that created it. The majesty of Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, The Black Hills, White Sands Desert, Rocky Mountains, etc. Things don't just happen by chance all the time. I am sorry, but as a Christian, I look at this thread as very insulting. I have passed by it numerous time and let it go, finally I had to state my thoughts. I am disappointed.

OOB,

No offense meant.

Religion has to be taken on FAITH. GOD CANNOT be proven. IT is by faith that we marvel at creation.

The point is that FAITH means different things to different people.

YOUR faith is not EVERYONE'S faith, neither is mine.

However, people insisting that it MUST BE so pisses off the originator of this thread. Just as asking me if I am going to Heaven or Hell would piss me off because it makes an assumption that I am not because I am not like everyone else AND THAT tends to piss me off, too.

This is not practicing reason and tolerance. It is confomity reinforced by religious extortion.

Somehow, I cannot concieve of God as an extortionist and I cannot see people using such strong-arm tactics as being agents of Christianity.

This is especially when they know that you are a Christian in the first place.

This is why I keep a Book of Mormon by the door for the Jehovah's Witnesses and several copies of "AWAKE" by the door for the Mormons and a shotgun by the door for all of the rest...

😄

Re: How to PISS off a Christian...

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:22 pm
by gpb3aol (imported)
OneBallBoi (imported) wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:37 am I don't understand you people at all. Why want to piss off a person unless you really don't like them? There are a few Christians in this group: Sag, Plix, Ken_SD, Luvpain99 and myself just for starters. How can you look at a beautiful world such as we have and not believe there is a higher power that created it. The majesty of Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, The Black Hills, White Sands Desert, Rocky Mountains, etc. Things don't just happen by chance all the time. I am sorry, but as a Christian, I look at this thread as very insulting. I have passed by it numerous time and let it go, finally I had to state my thoughts. I am disappointed.

Now you know how us non Christians feel most of the time. I'm sorry your insulted. I don't know you and I'm not making this personal to you, but if Christians would be more considerate of others in expressing their mythology we might not be thinking of ways to piss them off.

Re: How to PISS off a Christian...

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:20 pm
by tugon (imported)
OneBallBoi (imported) wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:37 am I don't understand you people at all. Why want to piss off a person unless you really don't like them? There are a few Christians in this group: Sag, Plix, Ken_SD, Luvpain99 and myself just for starters. How can you look at a beautiful world such as we have and not believe there is a higher power that created it. The majesty of Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, The Black Hills, White Sands Desert, Rocky Mountains, etc. Things don't just happen by chance all the time. I am sorry, but as a Christian, I look at this thread as very insulting. I have passed by it numerous time and let it go, finally I had to state my thoughts. I am disappointed.

To me being a Christian is willing to emulate the life of Christ. Can I love my fellow humans without judging them? Can I forgive them when they have wronged me? Can I turn the other cheek? Do I help others in their time of need? Am I willing to die for my fellow man? Am I a Christian? No but I work to achieve that goal every day. One day when I am judged I hope I get at least a B- or C+.

Re: How to PISS off a Christian...

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:37 pm
by sag111 (imported)
You wont piss me off because when I see people doing their best to piss me or someone else just because of my faith I will pray for you.This is what my God has taught me and not hate but to love so you can say what you want as I know where the real hate is from and it is from the prince of this earth...and that is not my God.

Re: How to PISS off a Christian...

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 2:47 am
by IbPervert (imported)
tugon (imported) wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:20 pm To me being a Christian is willing to emulate the life of Christ. Can I love my fellow humans without judging them? Can I forgive them when they have wronged me? Can I turn the other cheek? Do I help others in their time of need? Am I willing to die for my fellow man? Am I a Christian? No but I work to achieve that goal every day. One day when I am judged I hope I get at least a B- or C+.

When you get heaven you will judge you! Why? because you are your best critic! So how would you judge your life? What grade would you give yourself?

One does not have to go out and spend a day working to help feed poor people (It might help though) all you have to do to worship Father God and Mother God is help your fellow man when given the chance. Leave time in your daily schedule to help others for example --

Did you help that person in front of you in line who was just a little short of money?

Did you allow someone to take cuts in line?

When was the last time you gave a stranger gas money? I am not talking about the bums on the road side begging for money who have ten times the money you do... nor am I saying to put yourself at risk by picking up strangers. I am saying to give people a hand when they need it, and dont just force yourself on them ask if they need help.

Perhaps

A few true examples from my life of strangers helping out....

a few years ago I went into a gas station to buy a lotto number and this lady handed me a $20 gift card and said Merry Xmas just out of the blue!

I came out of a McDonald's with my mother and a friend of hers, we had tickets to go see a movie, but found a flat tire on my car. I am all thumbs at car repair and thought we would miss the movie when this marine with a southern drawl walked up and asked if i needed help? I mumbled out a yes and he took over and changed the tire in a lot less time then i would have. He was really cute to and had a really nice ass😄! I wanted to sniff that ass so bad! :D This marine would take no money, but in that act of mercy he was worshiping God! I have lived around Marines for 40 yrs and most of them are jerks, but this one was special. He told us he was heading for Iraq in a few months and I pray that he comes back alright. I also ask Father God and Mother God to send extra Angels to protect him over there.

Another time my mother and I went to the beach to see the sunset but for a change we went to one a few miles away. I use to work near this beach on a graveyard shift and would often get a few donuts (mmmm donuts!) and go there and sit and eat in the morning sun for a bit. The area were people park was always hard packed sand. Seeing cars parked were they use to I though it was safe to park in, but those cars were four wheel drives. The end result was I came in a bit faster then i should have then noticed to late that the sand was really soft and tried to stop, but all four wheels went off the pavement. Though one back tire was about three inches away from the pavement for which it might as well been the moon in distance. We were stuck like flies on fly paper. With darkness almost upon us I got out and tried to dig out with my hands then place pebbles for traction...which did not work! While trying to come up with something else when two different guys from different groups walked over and asked if we need help? I had to say Yes and explained what happened...they both said...yeah it use to be hard sand! With their ropes and four wheel drives my car was quickly out. We offered them free sandwiches at my brothers Deli but they turned it down. One even said, "seeing my son playing in the hole from your tire is thanks enough!" The boy was maybe 2 or 3 and was just enjoying the new whole he found and the rocks I had put in it.

Those are good positive stories of people helping strangers and asking for nothing in return. Do you try to help your fellow man or just run about your day in rush. Each of the people from the above stories were honoring Father God and Mother God by helping me in my time of need.

On another note ----

I think we need to develop another word for a believer in Jesus because the term Christian has a lot of very negative things behind it! Looking back through history you can see just how destructive the Christians have been.

The Mongols respected the beliefs of people they took over they even supported the idea of strange customs and beliefs...all they wanted is to be in charge.

The Muslims also respected the beliefs of others although if you were not of there faith they made a slave, but if you ever converted you had to be freed. Only in recent times has the Muslim faith started to swing away from long held beliefs and practices.

The Buddhists. Shintos, and Hindus all respect the foreign beliefs.

The Romans did not care what your worshiped as long as you were not a rebel and caused problems.

The world religions respected the beliefs of others until Emperor Constantine came along. Emperor Constantine was among the first (if not the first) to force people to convert or die to his way of thinking which happened to be Christian! This is the biggest reason today why so many have a difficult time with Christianity. White God fearing Christians went out into the world and killed, maimed and robbed then forced those who they took over to follow their religion. I could be wrong but in thinking back through two World History classes I believe that until Emperor Constantine's baptism at knife point was the first time in history this happened. If this is true (i think it is) then the Christians started the concept of religious wars, and that is the legacy of Christianity. Somehow I think Jesus would be the first to toss them out of the temple.

I believe that Modern man needs to develop another word for the term Christian! Because of a lot of very negative things behind it as I pointed out above!

Personally I do not care what religion others fallow as long as others respect my beliefs, but as we have seen through out history that is in the minority.

On another note ----

Hell and Satan do not exist they are both fairly recent creations of mankind.

Prior to around the 1400's and the writing of Dante's Inferno there was no Satan or hell in western culture.

Father God and Mother God want you to come down and learn then report back, and that is what life is about! All that we know is an illusion, and heaven is reality.

Father God and Mother God want you to perfect your soul at what ever speed you choose plus Father and Mother God are willing to give you as many lives as you wish to do so, and no i was never a monkey or any animal...an ass maybe on occasion.

Change of topic ----

If the Jehovah Witnesses come around tell them you follow Satan...works for me! :D If the Mormon missionaries come around invite them for dinner and ask them to go to bed with you...most of the time they are cute! ;)

Ask your spirit guide for advice...all good people have one and they are right beside you your whole life....that first impression is most likely him or her. When you have a problem you cant solve then go to bed you typically wake up with the answer....how does that happen? Your mind is quite enough for them to get the info into your mind. Pray to father God and Mother God for help and advice. Who is mother god you ask? She is Father God's partner after all why cant he have one? or must he be single? and the Holy Ghost is the love they share between them.

As a side note --

When i say spirit guide think of guardian angles except they are not angels. Your Spirit Guide is someone who promised you before you were born to help guide you and protect you in this life. They are with you all the time, and they see everything. There are Angels that help to protect you too but they are not there to guide you through this life. I found out that my spirit guides name is Daniel and i talk to him all the time now...though if your watching me I am talking to myself. He talks to me to but in a different fashion and sometimes it is difficult to tune in especially when my mind gets over occupied.

Father God and Mother God would n
IbPervert (imported) wrote: Mon Feb 04, 2008 1:36 am ever turn there backs on you, but you can turn
yours on them.

Ok its late enough rambling! 💤 👁️‍🗨️

Re: How to PISS off a Christian...

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:26 am
by tugon (imported)
I should also add that emulating Christ to me is not so much a religion as a moral decision on how to live.