tugon - Hmm....I would agree with your idea of castration in conjunction with serving their sentence for their crime for first offenders and for non-violent offencers. However, if they repeat an offense then my sentence should be imposed.

The parents should teach their offspring all about erotica and security. They have the oportunity if they are not scared to do it. Too much baggage. The same goes for females and males. They can both be raped in varius ways, and if scholed properly they can defend themselves so they are safe too. As far as "cases" and so forth, rarely I think they go into specifics so all is done in a "generalization" and "criminalization" manner for the Justice of it, I have my doubts/ As far as the "bloodthirsty" individuals that want to WIN-WIN-WIN over the tragedy of it all.??N3RF

From another post:

Dennis Carpenter, a clinical psychologist called by the defense, disagreed. Studies have shown, he said, that castration sharply reduces the risk of repeat offenses. One Danish study suggested the rate of repeat offenses dropped from 80 percent to 2.3 percent after surgical castration.

ALLOW VOLUNTARY CASTRATION for sure.

Involuntary? Why not. In this society we hang, shoot, electrocute and lethally inject people for bad behavior why not castration.

Lindaleah

I am still agnostic about this topic. As a people, we want sexual criminals to be monsters--that gives the rest of some sense of being okay. The other side of the matter appears when one remembers that Ted Bundy complained that people could not see him as a normal person who had a dysfunctional aspect to his personality. That dysfunction destroyed the lives of his victims.

I think it should be clear in our society that you should be able to do what you want IF IT DOES NOT TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM SOMEBODY ELSE!!!!!

Molesting a child clearly crosses way over that line. I DOES HURT THE CHILD. If anyone reading this thinks they can justify their behavior to do so is WRONG AND SHOULD SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES!!! IF YOU ARE ONE PLEASE GO GET HELP! There are counselors that can help.

LindaLeah

Problem #1 (http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=603717&page=1)

Problem #2 What of recidivism? (http://www.csom.org/pubs/recidsexof.html)

Problem #3True Reconviction rates before protective laws and public legislative action... (http://www.futureofchildren.org/informa ... c_id=74300)

Problem #4 schemes (http://crime.about.com/b/a/167163.htm)

You see, it is an addiction. Once tasted by some, it is a constant fight. Can they control themselves? I don't know. But why should we take a chance?

A-1

If you receive a DUI or moving violation or have and accident should you not be allowed to ever drive again??

A-1 (imported) wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2006 5:57 am ? I don't know. But why should we take a chance?

People who do the above have killed and maimed innocent men women and children.

Just thinking out loud. This is obviously a hard problem for all humans to grapple with and wish the best for those who have to make such decisions.

I'll have more to say later after I think about this a bit. And it sounds as if a lot of you are doing just that. It is good to discuss these things rather than put our head in the sand. But don't forget to write you Government reps to voice you opinions. If enough people with the same voice speak, they tend to listen. Unless you want to cut their pay.

Lindaleah

back to the constitution for a bit. if we kill someone, many would argue that that is cruel and unusual punishment. What the framers had in mind here was lopping off the hand of a pick pocket. Well? that person has to live out their days without a hand. Cruel? Unusual? I bet the insodences of pick pocketting were actually much less in london and in the middle east than it is now that we are civilized, but their point was that the punishment lasted the rest of the life of the perp. Killing someone lasts about 6 minutes and they don't have to live with a life long result, they just don't get to live period.

wonder how this is gonna devide the group.

Personally i don't have a vote on capital punishment. Some Al Bundies in this world deserve this kind of treatment. donno about the one shot wonders E.G. Scott Peterson (but there was this unborn child and he was a capital jerk. Divorce does handle his situation nicely).

I think if you take away a child molesters manhood involuntarily, you create a murderer, in that Rape is all about having power over another, but the molester/rapest just lost his toolbox. the MO now has to change.

if they want this, i am good with it. if it lowers their sentance, i don't know anymore, i would need to see some research and hear from their councelor. As far as that goes, and A1 already hit on it. after the first taste, it gets easier, so why is it not available profilactically other than Kemmell and that is not to say it is even that available?

done ranting

He means Ted Bundy (http://tedbundy.150m.com/main.html) not Al Bundy (http://www.albundy.net/start.php)



A-1

Castration works we have known that for centuries. For sex offenders it is both a ethical and logical step in their recovery. The carrot and the stick approach is effective in these cases. If the offender wants to take positive steps for his own good he should be rewarded. A quick trip to out patient surgery and a offender has given himself a chance to focus on his recovery and not what got him there in the first place. It takes longer to pull his wisdom teeth than remove his balls so it is not like the procedure is life threatening. Lets make it easy for those that have these kind of problems to take the first step and limit the damage they can do. Perhaps if we made castration as a tool available even some would come forward and have the procedure when the first recognized they had a problem.