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Re: giving it a shot

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 12:59 pm
by bruce2 (imported)
Well it's nearing a month since my third shot of Depo Provera.

I've been pretty tired for the past few weeks, and have been nauseous on occasion. My sexuality has been in the "ho hum" category ... can occasionally feel horny, but most of the time I don't think about it. Morning erections are irregular. I have no need to masturbate before bedtime like before. And when I am with a potential sex partner, I just feel like cuddling, I have no urge to have sex.

I'm concerned about my tiredness and the nausea. Has anyone else on Depo experienced these? Did it get better, worse, or stay the same over time?

I think my testicles have shut down a bit, and if I continue they'll keep shutting down more and more. I think being a "eunuch" on Depo will take a couple more months. But if I keep feeling so tired I'm not sure I want to keep this up. Any advice from the longtime Depo users?

Re: giving it a shot

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 12:12 pm
by guy26 (imported)
bruce2 (imported) wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2005 12:59 pm I've been pretty tired for the past few weeks, and have been nauseous on occasion.

I'm concerned about my tiredness and the nausea. But if I keep feeling so tired I'm not sure I want to keep this up. Any advice from the longtime Depo users?

Some fatigue maybe expected, but I would have your liver enzymes checked. Depo Provera is not that hard on your liver, but I would want to be certain before continuing to take any more. Your liver is resilient, but you can cause permanent damage in the wrong circumstances. I don't want to alarm you. I just want you to be safe.

Re: giving it a shot

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 12:34 pm
by Scottie (imported)
Get this checked by an MD.! Now SOON ! SOONER THAN SOON! scottie

Re: giving it a shot

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:37 pm
by Maura Hartman (imported)
Leslie and I have discussed the context of her post and she simply is implying that prolonged useage will shrink testicles to the point they are useless. When I had my orchiectomy performed by Dr. Barnham in Portland a few years ago I had been on Premarin and Provera for almost ten years and the gonads were about non-existant by then. By the way, Leslie is my personal fantasy girl, and I understand what she meant, she was in no way trying to be misleading.

Re: giving it a shot

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 5:23 pm
by Studlover (imported)
bruce2 (imported) wrote: Wed May 04, 2005 11:28 am hello all, last night i took a big step and injected myself with 150 mg Depo Provera. I'd been dreading it, so much in fact I threw the other two doses I ordered away, but kept one in the fridge, just in case.

the shot was surprisingly easy to give -- so anyone else that is dreading taking a shot, I suggest like me you just go for it, if that's stopping you.

anyway i've got 150mg of Depo in my body now.

i'd love to hear from anybody who is on Depo, especially what your first couple of weeks were like. I also want to discover how "asexual" I can expect to be. I think i have fairly low levels of testosterone to begin with (well, only enough to make me frustrated and waste half my day on porn ;)

i'm hoping to refocus my life on goals like career, friendships, etc. -- things that lately seem to always take a back seat to seeking sex. Has being on Depo helped anyone in this manner?

i'm really hoping the side effects are tolerable, and I can put my package to sleep -- at least for six months or so. after that I'll decide if it's worth proceeding to surgical castration.

i'm 5'9" 39 yo white male ... guess that's about it for now, i look forward to interacting with everyone.

b.

After reading all these threads, I am now totally, thoroughly confused as to what should/should not be taken and with what/without and how much, how often, etc. etc.

Any suggestions guys?

Studlover

Re: giving it a shot

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 8:02 pm
by may172001 (imported)
Depo Prova takes the hormones to nothing 0 surgical castration you have a level of around 50 or so.

So it is a little more intense than real castration but is a good taste.

Re: giving it a shot

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:20 am
by Studlover (imported)
Studlover (imported) wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2005 5:23 pm After reading all these threads, I am now totally, thoroughly confused as to what should/should not be taken and with what/without and how much, how often, etc. etc.

Any suggestions guys?

Studlover

Thanks, Sister. That's pretty much as I thought. Even seeking competent medical advise still cannot predict the out come as the body is going to do "its own thing."

But as I figure it, Depo can't be all *that* harmful as it is used for convicted sexual offenders.

Studlover

Re: giving it a shot

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:59 pm
by bruce2 (imported)
may172001 (imported) wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2005 8:02 pm Depo Prova takes the hormones to nothing 0 surgical castration you have a level of around 50 or so.

So it is a little more intense than real castration but is a good taste.

In all my research I've never read that Depo Provera takes your hormone levels down to nothing. I have read that it takes your levels down to pre-pubertal. I do know that Androcur can quite possibly bring you "all the way down" and is in fact more intense than actual castration. But with regards to Depo Provera most doctors in fact state that intercourse is still possible on the drug, but due to the "sexual calming" effect Depo has on the brain, most men aren't motivated to even try. In fact I have read that Depo Provera, a progesterone, is in fact ITSELF a mild (very mild) androgen, so that by definition one cannot have absolutely zero sex drive or androgen levels while on it -- it merely shuts down a man's internal testosterone production and substitutes it with an extremely weak androgen that is close enough to testosterone in chemical composition to fool the body into accepting it instead of the "real thing".

Re: giving it a shot

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:39 pm
by Studlover (imported)
bruce2 (imported) wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:59 pm In all my research I've never read that Depo Provera takes your hormone levels down to nothing. I have read that it takes your levels down to pre-pubertal. I do know that Androcur can quite possibly bring you "all the way down" and is in fact more intense than actual castration. But with regards to Depo Provera most doctors in fact state that intercourse is still possible on the drug, but due to the "sexual calming" effect Depo has on the brain, most men aren't motivated to even try. In fact I have read that Depo Provera, a progesterone, is in fact ITSELF a mild (very mild) androgen, so that by definition one cannot have absolutely zero sex drive or androgen levels while on it -- it merely shuts down a man's internal testosterone production and substitutes it with an extremely weak androgen that is close enough to testosterone in chemical composition to fool the body into accepting it instead of the "real thing".

So, the way I interpret this is that it really is a choice of Depo or Androcur. But from the discussions I have seen in these threads is that one can take both?

Studlover

Re: giving it a shot

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:53 pm
by Eunuchist (imported)
My understanding is that the depo works the same way as actual castration with regard to the fatigue. It tends to diminish and go away as one becomes adjusted to the changing hormone levels. However, the adjustment period can be highly variable. hang in there - it does get better. I went through a period of fatigue, but recovered quite well.

Krister, does it mean you've done with fatigue without HRT? I thought you were on some sort of hormone.. did you 'quit' recently?