Hello dear RR_Randy, I too am sorry that it is made so difficult for you. I hope the surgery is cheaper in Germany, because I don't expect 20.000€. As T van Keel has already written, it was confirmed to me on request that the surgery must be paid for by myself. Unfortunately, you have to be glad that it has become possible to get a nullification at all. Maybe there is someone here in the forum who is willing to donate something to you, of course it will take a long time, but it is better than nothing. If you want, you can write me privately an email with your paypal address, then I make the beginning . Unfortunately, I have no other idea. I have now actually in July a consultation appointment with the psychologist and I am incredibly curious whether the one appointment is already enough, or whether I also have to wait a very long time until it is my turn. I wish us all health and happiness, best regards Ralph

Hello T van Keel, I started out thinking that ‘just’ nullification was my goal. But during the talks with the psychologist I realized more and more that I want a less male body without total transition to female. That’s why zerodepth SRS fits me best. A more practical point is that not all gender clinics do a nullification while zero depth SRS stays close to what they are used to.

Hello Ralph, what a nice gesture to want to donate for my operation! Very much appreciated, but I am sure that I will manage one way or the other. The cost estimate of € 20,000 is from Germany! It consists of 2 surgeries: the big one and then a second one to do minor corrections. It includes 14 hospital days for the first and 7 for the second surgery. They told me at the hospital it is a high/safe estimate and that normally the costs might be a bit lower.

Regarding waiting time: at the moment that the hospital in Essen did put me on the waiting list for an operation the waiting time was 1.5 years. So that is after you have received the therapist letter with your diagnosis. Following the official route is a slow process! I wish you all the best too. Fingers crossed!

Hello RR_Randy,

I don't know if we talk about the same hospital in Essen. For information, the Uniklinikum did my nullification and the cost was a little bit below 11,000 € in 2020. Waiting time for nullification is also quite short there. Just in case you change your mind about zero depth SRS. Keep in mind that zero depth SRS will result in a female appearance down there, not in a gender neutral way as nullification does.

Nullification will be cheaper than zero depth SRS, but the latter is what I want. Indeed we are not talking about the same hospital (I was aware of that), just about the same therapist. My cost estimate is from the KEM hospital in Essen.

T van Keel (imported) wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 7:47 am Exactly one year ago I had my nullification surgery!

Somehow unbelievable how fast time flies. The first five months as a nullo were not too comfortable, as there developed a stricture quite immediately what caused lots of problems and required a revision. And these problems hindered me from leading a normal life quite a lot. But now everything is ok, despite of some minor aesthetic issues. And life is good now and I enjoy the smoothness down there every single day. No regrets and I can say that all my expectations became true. Really nice feeling!

congrats!!

Another year has gone and last weekend I already had my second nulloversary. Not much to report about the last twelve months. Life is simply normal, even so normal I didn't think much about the anniversary. Still zero regrets about the nullification.

T van Keel (imported) wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 12:46 pm Another year has gone and last weekend I already had my second nulloversary. Not much to report about the last twelve months. Life is simply normal, even so normal I didn't think much about the anniversary. Still zero regrets about the nullification.

Congratulations!

Glad you're doing well!

congratulations!

Congrats on one year as a nullo. May the next be as joyous!

Thank you all!

Erm,.it is already two years. I just updated the old thread.