I still don't understand guys going back and redoing chemical castration tests. One test and trial should tell you if you can live without your nuts. Why not just lose them and be done with it. Once it's done, and you adjust to a new life, there isn't anything better than being nutless. I tried going with out trt, but depression wasn't worth it. I told my Endocrinologist that I was having trouble with depression and she put my on a very small dosage of T per week and that solved all my problems.

Missouri_Steer (imported) wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 6:12 am I still don't understand guys going back and redoing chemical castration tests. One test and trial should tell you if you can live without your nuts. Why not just lose them and be done with it. Once it's done, and you adjust to a new life, there isn't anything better than being nutless. I tried going with out trt, but depression wasn't worth it. I told my Endocrinologist that I was having trouble with depression and she put my on a very small dosage of T per week and that solved all my problems.

I totally understand the on/off testosterone thing. For many, it is a huge relief to rid oneself of hypersexuality, or sex drive in a sexless relationship or stymie a deviant and/or "losers" sex drive. I feel comfortable, complete, controlled and connected off testosterone...the entire world makes total sense. However, a lifetime of coping and adaptation come into jeopardy without testosterone. For me, losing physical fitness and lack of artistic motivation are my....triggers to stop androcur. I could careless about sex and romance infact I don't want it at all, but losing physical activity, attraction and stress relief is enough to make me quit....but it's a nice vacation to be free of sex drive. Perhaps embracing homosexuality will offer greater freedom and self expression...

It is unfortunate that I have to end this trial much earlier than I have planned. The reason is that I am out of androcur for a week already and new order has not arrived yet, despite it should have been there already 3 weeks ago. Also Tamoxifen order was delayed for more than a month, but I finally received it. It could be that Androcur will arrive in 3 weeks, but by then my T levels are back and I am not sure if I wish to start it again from zero in the middle of summer and end in january next year.

Too bad timing.

So thats it.

erikboy (imported) wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 2:21 am It is unfortunate that I have to end this trial much earlier than I have planned. The reason is that I am out of androcur for a week already and new order has not arrived yet, despite it should have been there already 3 weeks ago. Also Tamoxifen order was delayed for more than a month, but I finally received it. It could be that Androcur will arrive in 3 weeks, but by then my T levels are back and I am not sure if I wish to start it again from zero in the middle of summer and end in january next year.

Too bad timing.

So thats it.

Total prepper here...I got pre-covid stockpile of meds....pills and patches, creames and injectables, suppositories you name it!....and 5 flats of dennisons chilli con carne.

I used Androcur for a couple of trials until I realized that I never wanted normal T levels again. So I did a couple of CaCl2 injections and even experimented with estradiol and progesterone. I've been off all drugs since the start of the year and am at a really good place. T level is around 130 ng/dl, low but not castrate. So far no bad side effects at all and my doctors are monitoring my health knowing what I've done. Some T is probably a good thing, but how much probably varies between people.

Finally my Androcur arrived. almost 3 months later than planned. But at the moment I have no interest to start it all over again. As I tried to remain physically active during castration, I felt how castration sucked away my endurance and strenght. Once I felt so weak that I had to stop and return 5km earlier than planned. Despite I was able to loose 10kg of weight during castration, I felt like a very old man. And when T started to return, it felt like life is returning into my body. I could run effortlessly and I really need to do run a lot and fast before I am out of breath. These two things, insomnia and being so easy out of breath were most difficult to cope with. Once we went to a cycling trip with a skinny and small woman. While she was always waiting for me, I was almost constantly out of breath and unable to keep up the pace. Embarrassing but funny. I did not tell the reason of course.

Another discovery is that testosterone enhances that feelining when you are in love. It makes you crave for your loved one much more. While castrated it is just a pleasant feeling to be nearby.

So, I have now Androcur and tamoxifen for like 4 months. But I am not sure when I will use it. Perhaps when I get some additional triptorelin for 2 months to see if being out of breath is related to Androcur or rather to low T. Constant sex drive is annoying of course, but I am quite busy right now, so it is more tolerable.

You may find triptorelin castration a far different experience. Androcur seems to have many side effects than just low T.

JessicaH (imported) wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:11 am You may find triptorelin castration a far different experience. Androcur seems to have many side effects than just low T.

I agree, I think it's the androcur side effects rather than low T you are experiencing. The most enjoyable time is when I stop the androcur, my balls stop aching first, but the the breathlessness and fatigue stop long before T returns.

JessicaH (imported) wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:11 am You may find triptorelin castration a far different experience. Androcur seems to have many side effects than just low T.

that might be the reason, why they do not use Androcur as puberty blockers.

I thought it would be interesting to share. My third trial became to end too early due to androcur delivery delays. At first I was very disappointed as I planned to stay castrated for at least 6 months.

What is interesting, is that I was able to reduce my weight by 11kg. During third castration period. That was a lot, and it happened fast. Interestingly my weight gain happened after the second castration trial. And as T returned I developed tender breast and little gynecomastia. I checked my prolactine and estrogen levels, they were in normal range. My gynecomastia started to solve almost immediately when I started third trial. Breast tenderness disappeared. And when T returned, gynecomastia did not. That was strange. May be it is related to loosing fat, as I weighted 11kg less when T started to return.

This time the return of testosterone has been different from previous times. I am physically very active this year. And when I started my third trial my endurance decreased. Well I had to use much more willpower to go on. But there were times I was physically unable to do what I planned to do. Will power is not enough. But as T returned I felt life returning to my body regarding physical activities. I felt young again. I noticed that, because I haven't felt this way for ages. I didn't feel like I am tired again and my lenghty walks seemed easy to me, enjoyable. On staircases I take 2 or 3 steps at once and run up with ease. I forgot what is being out of breath. I haven't checked my T levels yet, but I guess these are in normal range, not in upper range. This time something is different. I feel myself very energetic. World around me looks bright. Hard to describe. And I lost all the desire to become a no T eunuch. temporarily. Joy of life is so great. I think some of my body fat changed to muscles, as I haven't lost much weight but I feel/see my belly is almost gone. Yea, second adolescence