I'll take a look at adding Saw Palmetto as you are.

I kind of have a Monkish attitude towards this. Buddhist in nature and they are not supposed to masturbate. I just feel this way. It is a moralistic issue for me. How do you mean going with Pharmacology? How am I supposed to look at this in this way?

I don't think wanking is "falling", but I waste to much time with wanking. I need to reduce the wank time and use it for other skills. I'm on the 4th with Vitex and 5th without wanking.

Ah, thanks for the clarification. Online porn eats so much time and I'm done with relationships that involve sex in any form. Therefore I completely agree with your POV.

Okytiro1, you may be disappointed to learn I've had some hot and sweaty encounters, sometimes lasting several days, with Asian Buddhist monks. They didn't consider gay sex a big deal or much of a contradiction. That's an additional reason why I'm going the chemical/surgical routes. Religious practice? Been there. Done that. Fail.

Yeah I know Monks can end up like that. Kalu Rinpoche was molested by his teahcers. It's Sad.

https://herbpathy.com/Herbal-Treatment- ... do-Cid4430

Consider liquorice herb, but can effect other health.

If I take one capsule, it turns down the fire quickly.

How often do you need to take one ?

Wel here is my update. I've gone 2 weeks since last masturbation and 6 weeks into taking Vitex so It should be kicking in soon.

I'm on day 11 with vitex. Last wank was Saturday - I was too horny. Hope Vitex will kick in soon.