kristoff wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:13 pm Given the absence of the political forums for over 5 months now, I suspect that is a bit more difficult to judge. My suspicion is that the so called eunuch calm has more to do with the achievement of a long desired outcome than an actual effect of the outcome.

I'm going to agree with you simply because two decades ago I learned to put my emotions away and conduct myself without reaction to the person in front of me. It was a "Dao" philosophy that I used -- you can't live your life in hate -- It served me well. When I am home alone I still scream and yell at the TV… However, when someone else is around I might get passionate but not the truly profane and out-of-control nutzoid as when I'm alone. Even then, I so offend myself sometimes that I stop and put all that anger away. Usually change the TV channels, too. So much of politics is anger and hate, today. No one (living or dead) has ever heard my eruptions or meltdowns.

When people say that they achieve a calm state (free of sex drive or aggression) then I understand the effect of Testosterone on goosing them into aggression or anger. "T" does that to me but I've learned hot to turn it off and keep it under control.

However, if that anger or aggression is focused into sexual terms or if that "T" goes to goose the mental asshole in all of us and the behavior turns to masturbation and release cycle (like an addiction) then removal of that stimulus will feel more dramatic and be noticeable.

That sort of says there's a difference between M-to-F changes and purely eunuch changes. I'm not a psychologist or a psychiatrist to explain that any better. As I think about it, if you remove "T" because you don't want sex then calm happens and certain emotional states vanish. If you remove "T" because you want to be a woman then estrogen creates different emotions. That's probably inarticulately or stupidly said. Sorry in advance.

transward (imported) wrote: Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:31 pm Given the volatility and rancor thrown about on a daily basis in the EA Political Forums, it would seem that Eunuch Calm is

kristoff wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:13 pm more talked about than practiced.

Transward

Given the absence of the political forums for over 5 months now, I suspect that is a bit more difficult to judge. My suspicion is that the so called eunuch calm has more to do with the achievement of a l

ong desired outcome than an actual effect of the outcome.

Well,

I can say that the place is somewhat calmer. However, the volatility of politics aside, people actively seeking out a way to alter their body to suit their psyche is not generally thought of as calmness out there in the VANILLA world.

A good distraction WAS the political boards. Those who concentrated on politics seldom had the time to be excited about anything else. In addition, that board caused a lot of traffic to the E.A. It was getting to a point where as a political board, it was BETTER, (ahem!) C-A-L-M-E-R than the REAL political boards out there. It was ran well.

However, the stress proved too much for calm people to rationally handle. So, it had to go. Still, in COMPARISON to a REAL political board site, it was gentle, calm and kinder than the real thing.

So, my friends, the moral to this rant is that calm is a relative term. Calm compared to who or what?

Eunuch calm is a myth. The only time I will ever experience a "Eunuch Calm " is when I win the lottery! Im thinking the ones who think they experience a "Eunuch Calm" are boy to girl guys who are overjoyed their nuts are gone bye bye.

PrettyBoy (imported) wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2014 6:16 am Eunuch calm is a myth. The only time I will ever experience a "Eunuch Calm " is when I win the lottery! Im thinking the ones who think they experience a "Eunuch Calm" are boy to girl guys who are overjoyed their nuts are gone bye bye.

Whenever you try to speak for all of us you are wrong most of the time.

Just so.

So, for myself, the calm is maybe real. I'm more focused at work, a better team player, and more congenial at home. Life has many more valued interests than the mostly T-driven ones before.I remember thinking that life was good then too, but now having experienced both states, nutless feels better. -And no, I'm not a girl, just a regular mte eunuch.

The calm may not be experienced by those on replacement T. Those of us who have been T free for a long time know the calm and know it is not a myth.

Once again, this thread rears its head. Frankly this is another "your mileage may vary" situation. For me, being without Testosterone is a horrible experience. I get easily disoriented, have hot flashes that I sometimes think will result in my bursting into flames, and of course physical sexual ability is shut down , but for me a certain level of desire still remains. That can be really frustrating. Without T , my thought process changes, and decision making becomes a real challenge, my emotions are a roller coaster, one minute fine, the next a sniveling crying mess.

With a low dose of T most of that disappears, but sexual function is limited. If I push up to a more normal range, I certainly get very randy , but the difference is that I do not feel compelled to act. For me one of the greatest parts of being a eunuch , or when I still had nonfunctional testicles is that while with T in my system , I am interested in sex and sexuality, but there is no compelling desire to " complete the deed". During the short period in my late teens when they actually "sort of" worked, the drive to orgasm became the whole purpose of physical contact. When that went away the loss of it was quite welcome.

These days, I do think sexual thoughts, and act on them when the timing is right,but I am never "driven" to complete the act. As for the "calm" , well for me it is best obtained by managing a moderate dosing of Testosterone and exhibiting a little self control.

Some say things like "alls right with the world" , and other similar statements, but to me, having no T is about as far from "calm" as I can get.

Rayma

tugon (imported) wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:46 am Whenever you try to speak for all of us you are wrong most of the time.

Whoa Whoa, I don't remember saying "I and every other eunuch feels"... It was an opinion man, may have been full of holes but still just my opinion through my limited observation. Not trying to start an internet beef. Being I have been an eunuch for 8yrs without TRT, I (imo) still believe the "eunuch calm" is a placebo. I love you ok? Sorry if I offended anyone

PrettyBoy (imported) wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:36 am Whoa Whoa, I don't remember saying "I and every other eunuch feels"... It was an opinion man, may have been full of holes but still just my opinion through my limited observation. Not trying to start an internet beef. Being I have been an eunuch for 8yrs without TRT, I (imo) still believe the "eunuch calm" is a placebo. I love you ok? Sorry if I offended anyone

Your declarative statement that said "Eunuch Calm is a myth". "Eunuch Calm" are for boy to girl guys.... Really?

@tugon Like I previously stated I am sorry for offended anyone. I still yes still believe IMO the eunuch calm is a myth, a placebo effect. I have never received a special calm that I didn't feel when i had stinky nuts lol. Its ok, its just my opinion though. Now the girl to guys should have been said with more tact so again sorry for offending anyone. I love you ok?