A-1 (imported) wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:38 am Bullys are STUPID...

Watch this one (http://www.videobash.com/video_show/fat ... unny-16553) get his...

Wow.I thought he might have really hurt the little guy bullying him...Tough little bastard....Thanks Jackie

The only thing bad about this is that the bully got up.

River

A-1 (imported) wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:38 am Bullys are STUPID...

Watch this one (http://www.videobash.com/video_show/fat ... unny-16553) get his...

I think what many of us are talking about is not just one bully but many in our class using constant verbal and physical abuse. Since we find abuse deplorable we do not abuse others. I feel bad for the young man being bullied since he did not seem comfortable in what he was forced to do. It is hurtful to become something you are not.

Sixty years ago, yesterday, June 29, 1953, after my family had finished breakfast and my dad had gone out to work, the telephone in our home rang, and my mother answered it. The caller said something, to which my mother said, "Oh, Chan! What can I say?!"

Yesterday, my wife and I did volunteer ushering at Peninsula Players, in Door County, Wisconsin. From the playbill, for yesterday's play, Terry Twyman;s "Saloon," about Peninsula Players, "...we are America's oldest professional resident summer theater."

Peninsula Players "Theater in a Garden" has two parking areas, one notably higher on the Niagara escarpment than the other. The lower parking area is the one for physically handicapped people, there are no steps to descend in getting from that parking area into the main (theater) structure. There are wooden benches in the Garden, most with various people's names on them. My wife being physically handicapped, we parked in the lower parking area yesterday. Along the pathway from the lower parking area to the main structure, the first bench encountered had on it the words:

OUR FRIEND

CHAN HARRIS

In may of 1997, I met with Chan Harris at his home. He had recently undergone lower leg partial amputation as a surgical treatment for what understand was diabetic neuropathy. I talked with him about my bioengineering research into the biology of human destructiveness, and how his parents' murders on June 29, 1953, had led me to study what happens to people, such as his parents' next door 14 year old neighbor, who murdered Chan's parents, and, after murdering them, left a note for his parents telling them of his murderous act.

Chan died of a heart attack a few years ago, while at work. When I met with him, in 1997, the essence of what I did in talking with him was of solving the problem my mother told of on the morning of June 30, 1953, the problem of what can be said about bullies murdering people. To summarize what I said to Chan in May, 1997, I said, in effect, "Oh, Chan! This is what I can say!"

Today, sixty years and a day after my mother's "Oh, Chan! What can I say?!", I can say that I find that, through the use of bioengineering approaches to theoretical biology, I find that I understand, effectively without significant error, the human phenomenon of bullying. My first, overwhelmingly intense, memory of bullying is of an event that happened more than 74 years ago. That event? Circumcision without pain management, based on the biologically horrible and absolutely false notion that newborn babies (with a very small number of exceptions in which pain sensation does not develop) do not feel pain.

Why do some otherwise well informed physicians believe that newborn babies do not feel pain? Because their awareness of pain as a newborn was cut off from conscious awareness by the trauma of the infant-child transition imposed by the so-called social contract which demands of people that they be deceived and deceived about being deceived, thereby generating the commonplace delusion that people are inherently dishonest ("sinners" in some religious traditions?).

The core of bullying is the absolutely false notion that a person who did something that resulted in an alleged bad outcome could, and should, have done otherwise.

The eternal falsehood that a person did something wrong that the person could and should have avoided doing, when indoctrinated into toddlers (as with persons of any other age) with unrelenting terrifying coercion is the central mechanism of bullying.

The Anglo-American Adversarial System of Law and Jurisprudence, which claims the right to make rules for everyone except the members of the Anglo-American Adversarial System of Law and Jurisprudence Church of the American Bar Association Unconstitutional Religious Cartel, is the most terribly intriguing gaggle of bullies I have yet been able to recognize.

Based on decades of work, my best guess so far is that I have somehow managed to study the sociology of religion, the psychology of religion, the history of religion, the philosophy of religion, the psychopathy of religion, the biology of religion, the bullying of religion, and pretty much every other approach to making intelligible and unintelligible sense of human religious experiences about as well as has anyone else.

Bullying is the result of believing as though true religious teachings that are inescapably scientifically false and are not trivial in terms of their effects on human behavior.

Some books that may entertain:

Thomas Luckmann, "The Invisible Religion: The Transformation of Symbols in Industrial Society: The Problem of Religion in Modern Society," Macmillan, 1967.

Peter A. Levine, with Ann Frederick, "Waking the Tiger: Healing Trauma," North Atlantic Books, 1997.

William H. Swatos, Jr., Ed., Encyclopedia of Religion and Society," Alta Mira Press, 1998.

Peter L. Berger, "The Sacred Canopy: Elements of a Sociological Theory of Religion," Doublday, 1967.

Karl L. Popper, "Objective Knowledge: An Evolutionary Approach, Revised Edition," Oxford University Press, 1979.

Thomas E. Mann and Norman J. Ornstein, "It's Even Worse Than It Looks: How the American Constitutional System Collided With the New Politics of Extremism," Basic Books, 2012.

Benjamin Libet, "Mind Time; The Temporal Factor in Consciousness," Harvard University Press, 2004.

Oh, janekane.

If YOU do not believe them it means that you will go to hell.

A-1 (imported) wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:26 pm Oh, janekane.

If YOU do not believe them it means that you will go to hell.

To such extent as Hell is a place where people are sometimes sentenced to death and executed for crimes they did not commit, how is the United States of America distinguishable from Hell?

In prior posts, I have describe some aspects of my experiences of being bullied. The most intense and sustained of those happened during the first about three-quarters of second grade, at Marshall School, in Eureka, California, during the 1946-7 school year.

My second grade teacher at Marshall School, Miss Josephine Hanson, was a young teacher, very early in her teaching career. Please note that public school teachers are public employees, and their employment is of the public record, and that the employment of public school teachers, unlike people in private employment, is not subject to confidentiality.

Very early during second grade, Miss Hanson began to call out the boys in her class for lying. Every boy, and she treated me as a boy, in her class, except me, readily admitted to having told a lie, was censured for lying, and the lessons of the day were resumed. I, however, did not admit to having told a lie, because I had not told any lie and because I was incapable, as I have always been, of admitting to having done something I had not done.

When Miss Hanson rebuked me for not doing what I was "supposed to do," I asked her what it was that I had done wrong, being myself absolutely clueless. Miss Hanson's response to my request was always some form of, and often verbatim, "You know perfectly well what you did wrong; I saw you do it." In recent years, I have come to believe that Miss Hanson could not tell me what I has supposedly done wrong because her socialization had rendered her almost perfectly unaware of what she was doing to me.

Some organized and established religious traditions have a doctrine or dogma to the effect that people make avoidable mistakes which they could, and should, have avoided, and for the doing of which whatever punishment causes them to accept the dogma or doctrine as fact is socially necessary and appropriate.

Well, I have never learned how to admit to, or confess to, some act of mine that simply never actually happened. Apparently, because I did not confess to my misdeeds as did all the other "boys" in Miss Hanson's class, she sent me to the office of the school principal, Mrs. Edith Knudsen. Mrs. Knudsen, rather like Miss Hanson, treated me, as best I can discern, as though an incorrigibly defiant-of-teacher-classroom-authority miscreant worthy of whatever punishment was necessary for me to learn to confess on demand to misdeeds that simply never happened.

My best guess is that neither Miss Hanson nor Mrs. Knudsen had ever before encountered schoolchild who happened to be of the "profoundly autistic savant," "never learned to think in words or pictures" type, and mistook my being autistic for classroom authority defiance.

My parents took me to every physician possible, none of whom found anything wrong with me, and, about three-quarters through second grade, were able to arrange my being transfered to another public grade school in Eureka, with the understanding that I would not be punished by being paddled no matter what I did or did not do. So it was.

However, my parents decided that the Eureka schools were not safe for me, and my dad was able to find work in Sturgeon Bay, Wisconsin, where public school students were never paddled at school.

We moved to Sturgeon Bay at the beginning of third grade, whereupon Jimmy Duranty, the person who killed Grace and Sumner Harris on Monday evening, June 30, 1953, began to bully me.

I have devoted almost the whole of my life to understanding bullying with enough accuracy as to become able to understand how to eradicate bullying and all of its horrors, from the future of human existential evolution.

By this time of year, in 1939, I had already observed bullying and was profoundly troubled by it. Yes, I was born, as my Eunuch Archive profile correctly states, on May 18, 1939, and was, in terms of having been born, only about six weeks of age.

One result of the way I am autistic is my never having developed any form of amnesia for any time in my life since I became sufficiently aware to have begun forming memories of my life events and experiences.

My best hunch so far is simply that, until someone survives sufficiently horrible experiences of being bullied, and is able to forgive bullies and bullying sufficiently as to be capable of unriddling bullying accurately and completely, and also capable of sharing such unriddling effectively, the biological phenomenon of bullying is so socially contagious and addictive that it will be an unsolvable human existential predicament.

I have not yet effectively shared with those people who learned, through being bullied, to become people who bully others, how to solve the bullying problem. However, I have not yet found any evidence that I will not soon be able to share what I have learned about bullying and its effective eradication. The will to fight wars is of bullying. The will to find people guilty in a court of law is of bullying. The will to teach religious doctrines and dogmas is of bullying. The apparent impasse in the Congress of the United States of America is of bullying. Hurling epithets at people is of bullying.