Sounds like the Aussie who started the thread had an axe to grind. Australia has been in the thick of the whole fight itself right with the US. In effect he's blistering his own government. Hell of all the countries in the world, Australia most takes after the US way of doing many things (certainly not all). I just consider the ill-thought source and dismiss it, or relegate it to the fundamentalist crowd types - not to be paid much attention save to keep them in line.
My only wish is that Osama had been gotten about 9 years earlier, by ANY means. Would have saved a lot grief.
Anyway, I think this thread has about run its course.