Re: Can anyone relate? On answering Why?
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 2:21 pm
Today I have been having self doubts about my core identity. I'm not entirely for sure why. I find it more distressing that I can't be happy with who I am. It seems like such a simple task in life and one that would grow easier, not harder over time. You could suggest that I'm having pity for myself and asking, "why me?" Maybe that's the case, but it seems deeper than that.
For a long time I have felt that my self identity shifts just slightly from time to time. It isn't anything major, but it has a way of pushing my thinking one way or the other. It's almost like I'm precariously sitting on a fence. If I get nudged one way, I feel a great incongruity between feeling like an eunuch deep inside and the person I see in the mirror. And if I get nudged the other way, I feel distressed that I'm not masculine enough either on the inside or the outside. Having bipolar is always a wild card and has unpredictable ways of intersecting with other kinds of problems. If there is a pattern to my mood and the incongruity that I feel, I have yet to detect it. I can only tell you that during hypomania and subsequent hypsersexuality, this problem becomes crushing.
The other part of this is just anxiety about change and uncertainty. I feel like burying my head in the sand and trying to put this problem in a box on a shelf in the attic. I know I could do it. I have done it before. It would be a bad idea, especially since I have professional help to work with me and I've never had that in the past. I might be able to ignore this problem for 6 months or maybe even a year. But no matter how much I want it to be so, this problem won't disappear. And often times this act of denial and suppression falls flat on its face when I enter hypersexuality. I go from being in denial to suddenly being faced with something that I have no possibility of hiding from. That kind of circumstance is the most dangerous because I have come close to acting out on it impulsively. It's like being hit by a car because you were blind and unable to look both ways before crossing the street. And despite knowing all that, it is compelling to do it anyway. I can find peace today at the expense and risk of tomorrow.
What really kicked up the level of anxiety is the research that I did yesterday on testosterone. I was comparing the differences between taking testosterone topically as a gel versus an injection. There are tons of anecdotal accounts and opinions on the matter. Some of them are more plausible and based on evidence than others. For instance, taking testosterone topically yields a greater conversion to DHT (dihydrotestosterone) in comparison to the injection. More DHT can accelerate male pattern baldness, which I don't have much concern about at this point. But more importantly in my case, it can have an even greater effect at increasing one's libido. There is a big difference between my other half's sex drive and mine. It doesn't cause much of a problem in our relationship, but it is a point of continuing frustration for me. I would hate to make it even worse.
I don't have much fear that if my sex drive goes up that I will feel out of control. To me there is a huge world of difference between the sex drive from hypersexuality and one that is driven higher by hormones. There are other issues present when experiencing hypersexuality that makes it far more likely to feel like it is beyond normal and excessive to the extreme. There have been times with hypomania that I have been driven to be sexual for hours and hours at a time when I'm not really feeling horny. You might wonder why anyone would be sexual by themselves if they aren't horny. There is this kind of internal drive that is hard to explain without experiencing it first hand. It can provide a sense of focus that crowds out other normal thoughts and concerns in life. It can shift all of your priorities and leave you in a single train of thought that can persist over days. That's why I don't really fear increasing my sex drive more than it already is. It won't be out of control. It might be uncomfortable and I might feel it is excessive compared to what I'm use to, but it won't be dominating my existence. And eventually it will just feel normal.
I found it disturbing that there is more variability on the effectiveness of raising testosterone levels using the topical form. Some guys had hard numbers and they were barely able to get it up into the middle of the normal range. Were they using it wrong or what? In my case, we are targeting the high end of normal so it seems there might be more time required to get there. This prospect adds a little more uncertainty and will cause me to question even more critically whether what I'm experiencing initially is real or psychosomatic.
The prospect of having much smaller testicles as they atrophy from not producing testosterone has bothered me a little lately. Don't get too excited. LoL. It isn't what you think. I don't directly care about this one way or the other. Like I have mentioned before, they aren't really a part of my self identity in terms of masculinity. I only care because I feel like it means a lot to my other half. If they atrophy a lot, he will get use to it as long as it doesn't happen too quickly or it isn't too extreme. I guess there is some possibility of taking HCG (human chorionic gonadotropin) to prevent the testicles from shutting down with exogenous testosterone because HCG is similar to LH (luteinizing hormone). However, I haven't been able to find what I would call authoritative information about this. If anyone knows more, I'd be interested to hear about it.
I have a small amount of fear that taking a year or more to search around for
the right level of testosterone will
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somehow ultimately be a failure. But taking both testosterone and/or anti-androgens over that time could prevent my testicles from starting back up to produce my current level of testosterone. And maybe somehow I would be in a worse situation than where I started. Maybe that is my greatest fear? I don't really think that will happen, but anything is possible. I don't feel that doing nothing is sustainable for a long time either. If I did nothing, I'd be highly surprised if I was able to go even another two years before acting out on this incongruity. As time goes on, this problem is getting harder and harder to stand idle and do nothing. So doing nothing isn't a long term option.
And it concerns me a little that it could mess with my cholesterol and blood pressure. Because I have a lot of problems taking pills for some unknown reason, I'm not for sure if I would really be able to keep everything in check. I'm not looking to kill myself by causing my cardiovascular system to prematurely fail for my age.
At my last appointment with my therapist, we talked about the times when I'm not feeling masculine enough on the outside or the inside. Why do i feel that way? It strikes me as odd on the surface. Am I comparing myself to someone? I don't think so. I have no idea who I would be specifically comparing myself to. I don't have any role models or anyone that I look up to in that regard. And that hasn't been the case in the past either. If I'm objective, I'm not at the absolute bottom of masculinity compared to a lot of other guys. I probably tend to rank obese and many heavy set guys below me on the subjective scale of masculinity. I feel that being heavy set or obese really takes a bite out of their masculinity. I don't know if anyone else feels that way, but I do.
Maybe a better way of looking at this is asking how in concrete terms I could feel more masculine. If I had more body hair, especially on my arms, I would feel more masculine. I don't have a lot of body hair, but I have more hair than you would find on a lot of asian guys. I am just average in terms of strength despite lifting weights for years. Maybe this bothers me just a tiny bit, but not a lot. It is frustrating that most other guys are stronger than me even when they don't work out. I have no explanation for this. Lifting weights has certainly improved the way that I look and I'm happy about that. I'm not afraid to be naked in the presence of other guys, so I must have some confidence about how I look compared to others. Maybe my cock is just slightly under average. If I'm being 100% honest, it is 5 1/2" and a little thinner than average. It has never bothered me too much. If anything, it is just wishing that it was thicker. Ever since I got a prince albert piercing, I have been really happy with my cock. (That sounds horribly self conceded. LoL.) It looks bigger while flaccid with an 8 gauge ring through it and it looks more masculine. I wish I would have done it a long time ago. And besides, I can climax nearly as fast as I want now. LoL. If you want increased sensitivity or you feel like you were cheated because you don't have a foreskin, I would recommend getting a prince albert piercing immediately. Don't wait! Anyway, I feel that my face is boyish looking. This is a good thing overall. It makes me appear younger than my age especially being in shape and not overweight. But I feel that my face should be filled out just a little bit more than it is. I don't feel that my voice is all that masculine either. It isn't a commanding voice or deep or one that inspires great confidence. Although once in a while, I somehow find my voice and it sounds much better. I don't know why sometimes it happens to sound better. This is something that I might be able to change with some work. The last physical trait might be my overall skeletal structure. If I had to pick on something specific it would be my wrists. If you compare my wrists to another guy's, mine are always thinner. My hands are smaller and my forearms are thinner than most other guys. I'm not for sure why I'm like that. My brother's aren't like that.
What about what I might be lacking in terms of masculinity inside? This is a lot harder to answer, but I'll try. The easiest to start with is where I sit on the continuum of passive to assertive to aggressive. I have no doubt I'm on the passive side. I do almost anything to avoid direct conflict. I still resolve problems, but sometimes it takes a lot more effort as I take the indirect route to solve it. When I'm around a lot of guys I feel like the opposite of the alpha male. I think most would laugh if they tried picturing me as an alpha male. That just isn't inherently me. From a more cultural perspective of gender, I'm not really interested in the same things that most other guys are interested in. I'm not into guns, hunting, sports, fishing, cars, tractors, farming, and probably lots of other things they are interested in. I really could care less about what culture thinks I should do. Society can shove its expectations right up its fat ass. LoL. Subjectively and relatively I have more empathy for others. I like cute warm fuzzy animals. I like the small creature comforts. I like being clean and not tasked with hard labor. I also feel that I understand women's emotions a lot better than most guys. But I chalk the last part to being gay and more sensitive. I like being well groomed and wearing nice clothes. It drives me crazy if my fingernails get even a little bit too long. LoL. And even more importantly, there is something deep inside me that just doesn't *feel* like a guy. I don't know what that something is exactly, but it is a big part of who I am.
So after an accounting of how I feel I'm not masculine enough both physically and mentally, how might I expect testosterone to keep me on this side of the fence and change me in a way that keeps me happy? That is the million dollar question. Is it even plausible that it can have a big enough impact to do what I expect it to do? I honestly don't know. I think when I or others try to picture me being a lot more masculine, it brings a smile and a laugh. There is a radical difference between how I see myself and where I would like to be. The easiest and most likely change is that of body hair. From talking to others a
I'm beginning to lose some steam writing all of this in one sitting, but I want to explore one more idea--significantly lowering my testosterone. When I have taken depo provera in the past, what was it that prevented me from continuing to take it and what is it that I fear most? I feared the unknown consequences by taking it unmonitored. It scared me doing it all on my own, in secret, and with virtually no support from others except a few online friends. I feared that if I continued to take it that at some point there would be an incongruity between my ability to perform sexually and my drive to do so. That incongruity is a huge problem for a lot of guys, especially as they get older. It would drive me crazy should that situation arise and knowing that I caused it. I was scared of not having enough intimacy with my other half if I wasn't the one initiating all the time. I was afraid that I would put on weight and become too weak. I was afraid that I would sink into a deep depression even though I never did get depressed while taking depo provera. When I put it all down in writing, obviously I was afraid of a lot. But given all that, I did like it. I felt like me and I felt at peace with myself. There really wasn't any short term things that I didn't like, except for having somewhat less energy. What I feared the most are the long term effects. I probably wouldn't mind staying on the low side for 4 months, immediately tasking testosterone for a few months to make up for any long term changes, and then heading back down to repeat it all over. That might work, but I could never allow that slow natural rise in testosterone to happen again and again. It is painful in a way that I can't describe and it destroys my mood for many months even after it stops. I have no idea what a quick rise in testosterone will do, but I am about ready to find out.
After having poured out my thoughts on the keyboard, I feel better at least for now.
I would love to hear about your fears and concerns before you decided to head down a long term path....
For a long time I have felt that my self identity shifts just slightly from time to time. It isn't anything major, but it has a way of pushing my thinking one way or the other. It's almost like I'm precariously sitting on a fence. If I get nudged one way, I feel a great incongruity between feeling like an eunuch deep inside and the person I see in the mirror. And if I get nudged the other way, I feel distressed that I'm not masculine enough either on the inside or the outside. Having bipolar is always a wild card and has unpredictable ways of intersecting with other kinds of problems. If there is a pattern to my mood and the incongruity that I feel, I have yet to detect it. I can only tell you that during hypomania and subsequent hypsersexuality, this problem becomes crushing.
The other part of this is just anxiety about change and uncertainty. I feel like burying my head in the sand and trying to put this problem in a box on a shelf in the attic. I know I could do it. I have done it before. It would be a bad idea, especially since I have professional help to work with me and I've never had that in the past. I might be able to ignore this problem for 6 months or maybe even a year. But no matter how much I want it to be so, this problem won't disappear. And often times this act of denial and suppression falls flat on its face when I enter hypersexuality. I go from being in denial to suddenly being faced with something that I have no possibility of hiding from. That kind of circumstance is the most dangerous because I have come close to acting out on it impulsively. It's like being hit by a car because you were blind and unable to look both ways before crossing the street. And despite knowing all that, it is compelling to do it anyway. I can find peace today at the expense and risk of tomorrow.
What really kicked up the level of anxiety is the research that I did yesterday on testosterone. I was comparing the differences between taking testosterone topically as a gel versus an injection. There are tons of anecdotal accounts and opinions on the matter. Some of them are more plausible and based on evidence than others. For instance, taking testosterone topically yields a greater conversion to DHT (dihydrotestosterone) in comparison to the injection. More DHT can accelerate male pattern baldness, which I don't have much concern about at this point. But more importantly in my case, it can have an even greater effect at increasing one's libido. There is a big difference between my other half's sex drive and mine. It doesn't cause much of a problem in our relationship, but it is a point of continuing frustration for me. I would hate to make it even worse.
I don't have much fear that if my sex drive goes up that I will feel out of control. To me there is a huge world of difference between the sex drive from hypersexuality and one that is driven higher by hormones. There are other issues present when experiencing hypersexuality that makes it far more likely to feel like it is beyond normal and excessive to the extreme. There have been times with hypomania that I have been driven to be sexual for hours and hours at a time when I'm not really feeling horny. You might wonder why anyone would be sexual by themselves if they aren't horny. There is this kind of internal drive that is hard to explain without experiencing it first hand. It can provide a sense of focus that crowds out other normal thoughts and concerns in life. It can shift all of your priorities and leave you in a single train of thought that can persist over days. That's why I don't really fear increasing my sex drive more than it already is. It won't be out of control. It might be uncomfortable and I might feel it is excessive compared to what I'm use to, but it won't be dominating my existence. And eventually it will just feel normal.
I found it disturbing that there is more variability on the effectiveness of raising testosterone levels using the topical form. Some guys had hard numbers and they were barely able to get it up into the middle of the normal range. Were they using it wrong or what? In my case, we are targeting the high end of normal so it seems there might be more time required to get there. This prospect adds a little more uncertainty and will cause me to question even more critically whether what I'm experiencing initially is real or psychosomatic.
The prospect of having much smaller testicles as they atrophy from not producing testosterone has bothered me a little lately. Don't get too excited. LoL. It isn't what you think. I don't directly care about this one way or the other. Like I have mentioned before, they aren't really a part of my self identity in terms of masculinity. I only care because I feel like it means a lot to my other half. If they atrophy a lot, he will get use to it as long as it doesn't happen too quickly or it isn't too extreme. I guess there is some possibility of taking HCG (human chorionic gonadotropin) to prevent the testicles from shutting down with exogenous testosterone because HCG is similar to LH (luteinizing hormone). However, I haven't been able to find what I would call authoritative information about this. If anyone knows more, I'd be interested to hear about it.
I have a small amount of fear that taking a year or more to search around for
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the right level of testosterone will
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somehow ultimately be a failure. But taking both testosterone and/or anti-androgens over that time could prevent my testicles from starting back up to produce my current level of testosterone. And maybe somehow I would be in a worse situation than where I started. Maybe that is my greatest fear? I don't really think that will happen, but anything is possible. I don't feel that doing nothing is sustainable for a long time either. If I did nothing, I'd be highly surprised if I was able to go even another two years before acting out on this incongruity. As time goes on, this problem is getting harder and harder to stand idle and do nothing. So doing nothing isn't a long term option.
And it concerns me a little that it could mess with my cholesterol and blood pressure. Because I have a lot of problems taking pills for some unknown reason, I'm not for sure if I would really be able to keep everything in check. I'm not looking to kill myself by causing my cardiovascular system to prematurely fail for my age.
At my last appointment with my therapist, we talked about the times when I'm not feeling masculine enough on the outside or the inside. Why do i feel that way? It strikes me as odd on the surface. Am I comparing myself to someone? I don't think so. I have no idea who I would be specifically comparing myself to. I don't have any role models or anyone that I look up to in that regard. And that hasn't been the case in the past either. If I'm objective, I'm not at the absolute bottom of masculinity compared to a lot of other guys. I probably tend to rank obese and many heavy set guys below me on the subjective scale of masculinity. I feel that being heavy set or obese really takes a bite out of their masculinity. I don't know if anyone else feels that way, but I do.
Maybe a better way of looking at this is asking how in concrete terms I could feel more masculine. If I had more body hair, especially on my arms, I would feel more masculine. I don't have a lot of body hair, but I have more hair than you would find on a lot of asian guys. I am just average in terms of strength despite lifting weights for years. Maybe this bothers me just a tiny bit, but not a lot. It is frustrating that most other guys are stronger than me even when they don't work out. I have no explanation for this. Lifting weights has certainly improved the way that I look and I'm happy about that. I'm not afraid to be naked in the presence of other guys, so I must have some confidence about how I look compared to others. Maybe my cock is just slightly under average. If I'm being 100% honest, it is 5 1/2" and a little thinner than average. It has never bothered me too much. If anything, it is just wishing that it was thicker. Ever since I got a prince albert piercing, I have been really happy with my cock. (That sounds horribly self conceded. LoL.) It looks bigger while flaccid with an 8 gauge ring through it and it looks more masculine. I wish I would have done it a long time ago. And besides, I can climax nearly as fast as I want now. LoL. If you want increased sensitivity or you feel like you were cheated because you don't have a foreskin, I would recommend getting a prince albert piercing immediately. Don't wait! Anyway, I feel that my face is boyish looking. This is a good thing overall. It makes me appear younger than my age especially being in shape and not overweight. But I feel that my face should be filled out just a little bit more than it is. I don't feel that my voice is all that masculine either. It isn't a commanding voice or deep or one that inspires great confidence. Although once in a while, I somehow find my voice and it sounds much better. I don't know why sometimes it happens to sound better. This is something that I might be able to change with some work. The last physical trait might be my overall skeletal structure. If I had to pick on something specific it would be my wrists. If you compare my wrists to another guy's, mine are always thinner. My hands are smaller and my forearms are thinner than most other guys. I'm not for sure why I'm like that. My brother's aren't like that.
What about what I might be lacking in terms of masculinity inside? This is a lot harder to answer, but I'll try. The easiest to start with is where I sit on the continuum of passive to assertive to aggressive. I have no doubt I'm on the passive side. I do almost anything to avoid direct conflict. I still resolve problems, but sometimes it takes a lot more effort as I take the indirect route to solve it. When I'm around a lot of guys I feel like the opposite of the alpha male. I think most would laugh if they tried picturing me as an alpha male. That just isn't inherently me. From a more cultural perspective of gender, I'm not really interested in the same things that most other guys are interested in. I'm not into guns, hunting, sports, fishing, cars, tractors, farming, and probably lots of other things they are interested in. I really could care less about what culture thinks I should do. Society can shove its expectations right up its fat ass. LoL. Subjectively and relatively I have more empathy for others. I like cute warm fuzzy animals. I like the small creature comforts. I like being clean and not tasked with hard labor. I also feel that I understand women's emotions a lot better than most guys. But I chalk the last part to being gay and more sensitive. I like being well groomed and wearing nice clothes. It drives me crazy if my fingernails get even a little bit too long. LoL. And even more importantly, there is something deep inside me that just doesn't *feel* like a guy. I don't know what that something is exactly, but it is a big part of who I am.
So after an accounting of how I feel I'm not masculine enough both physically and mentally, how might I expect testosterone to keep me on this side of the fence and change me in a way that keeps me happy? That is the million dollar question. Is it even plausible that it can have a big enough impact to do what I expect it to do? I honestly don't know. I think when I or others try to picture me being a lot more masculine, it brings a smile and a laugh. There is a radical difference between how I see myself and where I would like to be. The easiest and most likely change is that of body hair. From talking to others a
have little doubt that taking exogenous testosterone will increase the amount of body hair I have. It appears to be fairly universal whether someone wants it or not. That would be a big plus. Additionally, it could increase my overall strength since I lift weights consistently every week. That would be a small benefit, but really wouldn't change myself perception all that much. It's possible over a long time I could gain more lean muscle mass and just more mass in general. That would help quite a bit. I wouldn't feel so tiny and weak relative to other guys. There is a possibility that it could reduce my boyish looks. That would help too, but maybe that prospect also scares me a little. If my face changed in subtle ways that add up to something significant, it would be hard to get use to. If this happens, it wouldn't happen overnight. So it doesn't concern me too much. An increase in testosterone could effect my mind in any number of ways. This is what I care the most about. Physical changes would be nice, but they don't mean much and could make things worse if my mind isn't taken along for the ride. If I do
ial of more testosterone relative to my normal level would be a failure to me. It is by far the most subjective aspect of it all and it is something that will take time to evaluate.
I'm beginning to lose some steam writing all of this in one sitting, but I want to explore one more idea--significantly lowering my testosterone. When I have taken depo provera in the past, what was it that prevented me from continuing to take it and what is it that I fear most? I feared the unknown consequences by taking it unmonitored. It scared me doing it all on my own, in secret, and with virtually no support from others except a few online friends. I feared that if I continued to take it that at some point there would be an incongruity between my ability to perform sexually and my drive to do so. That incongruity is a huge problem for a lot of guys, especially as they get older. It would drive me crazy should that situation arise and knowing that I caused it. I was scared of not having enough intimacy with my other half if I wasn't the one initiating all the time. I was afraid that I would put on weight and become too weak. I was afraid that I would sink into a deep depression even though I never did get depressed while taking depo provera. When I put it all down in writing, obviously I was afraid of a lot. But given all that, I did like it. I felt like me and I felt at peace with myself. There really wasn't any short term things that I didn't like, except for having somewhat less energy. What I feared the most are the long term effects. I probably wouldn't mind staying on the low side for 4 months, immediately tasking testosterone for a few months to make up for any long term changes, and then heading back down to repeat it all over. That might work, but I could never allow that slow natural rise in testosterone to happen again and again. It is painful in a way that I can't describe and it destroys my mood for many months even after it stops. I have no idea what a quick rise in testosterone will do, but I am about ready to find out.
After having poured out my thoughts on the keyboard, I feel better at least for now.
I would love to hear about your fears and concerns before you decided to head down a long term path....