Does anybody know what type of herbs a pussyboy could take to enlarge the breasts? Or the type creams you can rub on to enlarge them? Any other breast enlarging info will be appreciated.

SplitDik (imported) wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:56 am If a guy likes T-girls as a category, rather than liking women and happening to find a T-girl he likes, then he probably wants them to still have the male genitalia. I mean a fully transitioned transsexual should basically be a woman, so any guy with her shouldn't be thinking "all right I'm fulfilling my T-girl fetish".

I think the reasons guys (even those who otherwise are quite "straight") may be attracted to a T-girl with balls is that most biological women are really not particularly horny. A T-Girl really wants to suck your cock, whereas most women see it as a chore. Also, presumably a T-girl knows more about how a penis works and are therefore more practiced in pleasuring. I think if a guy really wants to be penetrated though then there is probably some latent homosexuality involved.

What I don't understand is why many transsexuals keep their male genitalia and seem to enjoy having it. If they are so out of place in a male body I'd think they'd definitely want to get rid of the most male part of their body.

I realize that the surgery itself is a barrier to some, but it seems that some T-girls actually prefer to keep the male genitals.

Just seems strange to me ... but of course there is no reason that people should fit into compartments.

As much as I love the taste and feel of a vagina, I guess the T-girls appeal to me because of my love of fellatio. A woman with a penis would surely appreciate a fine blowjob, and would almost certainly be able to give one. And, I admit, I am very aroused at the thought of returning the favor.

For what it is worth, the best sex I have had with Trannies is with those who have been gelded but have kept their pennis. Something changes once the internal testosterone machine is removed.

Being without testis but still having the penis seems to be the right balance for someone who wishes to live their life as a female, in my opinion.

If I was to take the jump and be castrated, I would defiantly go on a course of estrogens and feminise myself as far as possible. Possibly I would only be able to get as far as being androgenised.

Hash, would like to just say I've known quite a few transwomen who had no sex drive before beginning hormone theraphy, and who then developed a sexual appetitie after going on estrogen.

Now how much if that is due to a psychological effect, i.e. being uncomfortable with one's physical appearance before HRT and thus suppressing one's sexual desires, and how much is due to the chemical effect of estrogen, as well as taking into account the differential level of both estrogen and testosterone in one's body, I cannot say, but I thought I should just throw this bit of info into the ring as food for thought.

Edit: how weird! I tried to quote Hash's post and encountered some error and now his post's disappeared! Mods please note. Thanks

mrt (imported) wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:13 am On a small side note I think some of this (all?) is body image. The desire to have our bodies be what we think they should be. In my case it was to take care of my atrophied (broken non working) testes and get silicone implants that were the size of what I thought would be proper male testicles.

my male 2 MALE sex change.

Mr T I suspsect you don't have silicone or even brass ones down there. My guess?

A couple of 13.75 kiloton antimatter warheads.

(Schlock Mercenary reference there)

My own experiences are strictly that of a low T male, but I have known several people who were transgendered and can relate what I know about them.

One, an old friend from High school began to transition way back in '79. At the time, dosing with estrogen was the start. That didn't seem to be enough , and breast development was slow, and there was still the struggle with facial and body hair. At the recommendation of his/her doctor, castration was done. immediately the breast development started , and facial and body hair slowed and ultimately stopped. Since funding was strictly out of pocket for surgery, it was almost 10 years before SRS was finally done. In that time, the penis still worked just fine, with no Testosterone at all. The estrogen was doing the job.

Several others that I have met actually chose to be castrated, and had breast/facial surgeries, but still retain the penis. They have no plans to dump 15-20 k into a surgery that MIGHT bring good results, but rather live as women with a dick. They mostly retain erectile function, but not without some outside stimulation. Their libidos seem to be about on par with women of similar age.

As to guys who are into T-girls, seems to me, that the whole point is to have a dick to play with. If you are opting for a complete SRS tranny, then that is functionally a woman, so unlikely to satisfy any desires there.

One guy I know really is into T-girls cause he's so closeted. He has the cock he desires, but can appear in public with a female all the time. For whats its worth, he prefers the ones who have been castrated.

Raymar

If the "sexologists" are right, most people have some degree of bisexual feeling, rather than being exclusively hetero or homosexual. I'm bisexual, and I sometimes find myself attracted to Tgirls. The reason is simple, at least for me - they unite desirable features of men and women in one person. I suppose that some people experience this as an anxiety-provoking confusion. For those of us untroubled by ambiguity, it can be a delicious combination.

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punkypink (imported) wrote: Tue Dec 29, 2009 2:32 am In fact, a LARGE proportion of people are attracted a lot more to personality than physical traits, and in the modern world people seem to see that as a bad thing because we're supposed to be "sexually awakened" and all that. We do not apologise for finding it distasteful to be superficial, and we certainly think the basis of attraction and indeed, long term stability should be dependent on substance 1st before form. Form is a nice desert to be enjoyed in the bedroom. Form being the basis of 2 people getting together is a joke and bound to end in tears.

Now, any transperson who wishes to fall into the vicious cycle of letting attraction to form dictate his or her own self-acceptance and validation, feel free to do so. In the end though, if he or she finds that validation and genuine acceptance is never forthcoming, don't say Punky did not dispense any words of genuine wisdom.

This is not just an issue of sexual attraction whether bisexual, homosexual or heterosexual. The interesting thing is how many men, and women are socially conditioned to, or have convinced themselves that they must, have "standards" of physical appearance for anyone they allow themselves to be attracted to. How many men will not get close to an even moderately overweight woman despite the sense that they are really attracted to her personality, intelligence and, yes, even overt sexuality. How many women will not allow themselves to get close to a man who is "hairy" or maybe a bit overweight because of what their girlfriends may think. They will forgo the experience of getting to know someone who may be a really great person because of the risk of being seen with someone who isn't hot, or sexy.

Sexy is a tease. Sexy is a promise that is almost never made good. Real relationships, whatever the sexual or gender orientation, come between people of complementary intelligence, shared feelings, passion for life, and in the case of a sexual relationship, true and genuine sexuality.

Fetishists are another issue. If a person seeks out the object of their fetish without regard for the other person's feelings it is almost always hurtful and destructive to the person who is the object. However, it's not always bad. I have seen relationships with complementary fetishes (Really!) that are as close and permanent as any you could imagine.

Too many of us are not just selfish, but shallow and stop at the cover without opening the book. --- Just an observation, not wisdom.

punkypink (imported) wrote: Mon Dec 28, 2009 5:55 am I beg to differ Transward.

True happiness comes from within. Having people with a transfetish is providing a false sort of happiness and validation. In the short run, thats fine, but in the long run, its more likely than not to lead to an inability to genuinely understand what makes us who we are. Lots of "admirers" are not exactly into transgirls for altruistic reasons, and will not hesitate to completely destroy however little self-esteem a tgirl has in order to get what he wants sexually.

There are those I call "transpartners", people who date tgirls not because they're tgirls, but because they love someone enough not to care about what genitals they have. If anything, bunching them in with the "admirers" who're there for selfish reasons, is the real slander and the real act of ungenerousity here. I say we actually pay tribute to people who don't objectify us when dating us, and seperate them from the people who selfishly sees us not as human being in their eyes, but just an object for them to get their rocks off.

I can personally say I do not fetishise physical traits in people. The only thing that turns me on is their personality. It's not what they have, its who they are, and if I like them, I can do anything with them regardless of what they have. I am lucky and very proud to say that equally, all the people I've dated have NEVER ever dated me for the fact that I'm trans, but for the fact that as a person, I am smart, capable and likeable.

I am sorry that I somehow missed this thread, but this is a really good post and I just had to say something. Very well said!

Elizabeth

We shouldn't confuse love and lust. Both are legitimate, instinctive, and necessary human emotions. They don't compete with one another. They're entirely separate. They have different bases in genetics, physiology, and psychology. Our world would halt if either disappeared.

I'm vaguely disgusted by paeans to love, supposedly the deeper truer emotion, as something to be preferred to shallow impermanent lust. Love unites people, who would perish without the benefits of society. Lust peoples the world with children. Both are intense and necessary emotions. Both are sincere and complex. Lust may, in fact, be less durable, because it doesn't need to last to spur reproduction.

But please, no lectures about the supposed superiority of love.

punkypink (imported) wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2010 7:18 am Hash, would like to just say I've known quite a few transwomen who had no sex drive before beginning hormone theraphy, and who then developed a sexual appetitie after going on estrogen.

Now how much if that is due to a psychological effect, i.e. being uncomfortable with one's physical appearance before HRT and thus suppressing one's sexual desires, and how much is due to the chemical effect of estrogen, as well as taking into account the differential level of both estrogen and testosterone in one's body, I cannot say, but I thought I should just throw this bit of info into the ring as food for thought.

Mr T I suspsect you don't have silicone or even brass ones down there. My guess?

A couple of 13.75 kiloton antimatter warheads.

(Schlock Mercenary reference there)

Only 13.75 Kilotons? On the old Star Trek it was only a tiny amount to "blow off 1/3 of the air" on some planet with the blood sucking evil gas monster.

And nope. Its just silicone. For me the result was body image highly enhanced!

I think your comments on sex drive and having a positive body image are a huge part of being sexual. My take on the hormone part is that both Mrs T and I need HRT to have a real sex drive. Without it you can work yourself up for sex and its "ok" but there is no real drive. In other words you don't feel like you need it. Its ahh... not just a hobby