Thanks for the information. My Doctor changed the prescription as serzone (which has the least sexual side effects) has very scary side effects, e.g. liver hepacity, potential death, etc. and I got really nervous. I asked him to prescribe something similar but with the least amount of sexual side effects and that is where Effexor came from. He did not prescribe Wellbutrin (which I have taken before as zyban for smoking cessation and had no side effects with the exception of perhaps being even more hornier than usual) as he said that it was not an anti anxiety drug and that it could make matters worse. It sounds like several have taken Effexor and have lived to tell the tale but with all similar withdraw symptoms. How long was your withdraw period and did they prescribe anything additional for the withdraw? Also, does ejaculation retardation mean that you were never able to come or that it just took so long that you gave up in the process? So you could be horny with no relief? Thanks again.

John Quest (imported) wrote: Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:25 pm Thanks for the information. My Doctor changed the prescription as serzone (which has the least sexual side effects) has very scary side effects, e.g. liver hepacity, potential death, etc. and I got really nervous. I asked him to prescribe something similar but with the least amount of sexual side effects and that is where Effexor came from. He did not prescribe Wellbutrin (which I have taken before as zyban for smoking cessation and had no side effects with the exception of perhaps being even more hornier than usual) as he said that it was not an anti anxiety drug and that it could make matters worse. It sounds like several have taken Effexor and have lived to tell the tale but with all similar withdraw symptoms. How long was your withdraw period and did they prescribe anything additional for the withdraw? Also, does ejaculation retardation mean that you were never able to come or that it just took so long that you gave up in the process? So you could be horny with no relief? Thanks again.

Wellbutrin for anxiety would not probably be the best mix. Effexor withdrawal was protracted - 2 months. Bad headache - chronic - slowly diminishing over 2 months. Pain killers would not touch it. Unpredictable panic attacks, needing sedation at times, frequent nausea. I tapered down from 225 mg per day to 37.5 mg every other day, before stopping. then the fun began. Effexor is also known as No-Sex-Or --- says it all. Retarded ejaculation with SSRIs most frequently means no blast off, even after an hour and a chapped weiner....

Seriously, has anyone tried hypnosis, or accupuncture to increase, or lower sexual desire and/or performance or get over other issues. ???

I'm considering hypnosis to help me get over my dislike of my left nut (deformed by surgery). Of course I need to find a qualified hypnotic who won't think I've lost my marbles. That's the embarassing part but I think I can force myself to embarass myself in front of a hypontic then go to a "therapist" whom I deeply doubt and distruct.

If surgery can get rid of my epididimytis I may be able to get by without going the castration route if hypnosis/accupuncture can help. I really don't like drugs, and as much as I desire avoiding any surgery, it looks like a necessity. I'm only a eunuch wannabe because of my obsession over medical issues, not because I want to be nut free just because of a nut free fettish. .

So, according to the long (copyrighted) article above, drugs can turn off a mans desire to wear women's clothing, and they can de-sexualize men.

They create a mental sexual neuter who isn't physically neutered.

Makes me wonder if a body's chemistry might be altered to change a hetrosexual into a homosexual, or a homosexual into a hetrosexual, or turn either into bi-sexual.

There are sexually compulsive females too (female teachers and their high school students). Wonder if the same chemicals would apply to them as they apply to the men.

This sounds promising. I am surprised that the Catholic church isn't substituting them for the little wafers they offer to the faithful. Or, maybe they are.

These pills should be a requirement for all priests.

Can I suggest that YOU are not the one with the problem?

Sex drive is normal. Taking extreme measures to reduce your natural sex drive so she's not inconvenienced sounds unwise to me.

Have you tried to get your woman to compromise?

sdboy300 (imported) wrote: Tue Aug 26, 2008 5:06 pm Thanks again for the informati

on. Food for thought for sure. Can anyone else weigh in on their experience with Effexor as well. Similar experiences? Regards.

I took Effexor along with Topamax to numb the pain in my now gone left testicle. The largest by far side effect of the Effexor was the 60lbs of weight I gained when I added it to my Tomamax regimine.

Topamax alone made me lose weight like crazy and when we added the Effexor I could look at food and gain a couple pounds. I gained 60lbs in 7 months!!

The withdrawal from the Topamax was tough. The withdrawal from the Effexor left me useless with the worst headaches, dizzyness and 60lbs of flab all over my body. I'll never take it again.

Don't remember what it did for libido. The Androcur took care of that.

I took it and had hives for a week.. Was HORRIBLE!

Thanks all, I appreciate it.

ramses (imported) wrote: Tue Aug 26, 2008 6:19 pm I did depot provera for about 10-11 months then did androcur for a few months. My only complaints with the DP is that I didn't sleep as well and got colder when it was cold but got hotter too, especially at night.

Interesting that you mention body temperature regulation issues when you were taking Depo Provera. My wife has been administering monthly injections of Depo Provera to me for over two years to chemically castrate me. I also take 100mg daily of Spironolactone.

I've noticed similar thermal effects but put it off to getting older or as a side-effect of low testosterone. It seemed to get more pronounced last winter, not so much when I was outside and doing something but moreso while watching hockey. Now it seems to be more frequent and I often wear both a sweater and a sweat shirt at home after dinner. I can tolerate it and a hot shower always cures the coldness. I never get hot during the day but frequently wake up sweaty in the middle of the night. I figured that was something like a hot flash due to my lowered testosterone, not something related more directly to DP.

Hopefully, things are drawing to a close. My urologist has scheduled another testosterone test in early Feb. We have talked about TRT but he wants to be sure of my baseline so we're watching things for several months. He has said that if my T level is similar or lower than my Oct test (95), he will remove my testicles and then we can start with some testosterone replacement. I'm not looking to raise my T level to anything mid-normal but thought we could get it close to a minimum acceptable level- 200-300. After I am castrated, I will obviously stop the DP and Spiro. I will be very attentative to the body temperature issue and see if things get more stable when the DP is stopped.

I was generally happy with my testosterone level at 95 until this winter with more intense cold flashes. I wasn't really considering testosterone replacement but then thought some might be beneficial if it kept me warmer. Now you've thrown a wrench in my thinking. Maybe I should go a month or two after my castration without Depo Provera and without additional testosterone and see how things play out that way. Then there would be no uncertainty about whether my body was responding to low testosterone or the Depo Provera