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Re: I Wonder
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:46 pm
by A-1 (imported)
Riverwind (imported) wrote: Mon Jul 02, 2012 6:31 pm
What are you talking about?????
Freeways are just that, a federally payed for public road, can never be a toll road, because it was built with federal tax dollars. Now states can build roads without federal dollars and can make them toll roads. it is not unusual for them to use a token
moi621 (imported) wrote: Mon Jul 02, 2012 8:32 pm
over cash. The red line comes to mind.
River
I don't have a problem with them requiring correct change,
or don't expect change and pay over the amount due.
It is refusing cash money that makes me unhappy about the management of my public right of way.
When the California Freeways were built and over the years I don't think we appreciated the
FREE in FREEway. It was just a name. "Freeway".
Now the name makes sense witnessing a competing set of toll roads.
Economic infrastructure
rationing.
Is it legal on a public right of way?
Moi
In Indiana Governor Daniels LEASED the Indiana Toll road to a Spanish investment company (from Spain) for 99 years. Is this what moi is hinting about?
Re: I Wonder
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 4:55 am
by Riverwind (imported)
Not sure and he lives in the south so what does he know, in northern California they have 4 bridges that cross over the bay into the City. You will pay for that right of passage going into the City from any and every one of them. You can use cash or buy a card and swipe it or put a tag on your car.
River
Re: I Wonder
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:42 pm
by moi621 (imported)
The San Francisco Bay area bridges are great examples that cash still works.
I object to the idea they can refuse cash.
Re: I Wonder
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 4:20 pm
by moi621 (imported)
I wonder
If the Higgs Boson did not exist,
would scientist need to create one?
They recently claimed they found it.
Probably it rolled off the turnip truck
Moi
Anti Higgs Boson
To be free of the physical world.
Re: I Wonder
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:03 pm
by kristoff
moi621 (imported) wrote: Tue Jul 03, 2012 4:20 pm
I wonder
If the Higgs Boson did not exist,
would scientist need to create one?
They recently claimed they found it.
Probably it rolled off the turnip truck
Moi
Anti Higgs Boson
To be free of the physical world.
I wonder if Moi gets sand up his nose when he sticks his head in it?
Re: I Wonder
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:26 pm
by transward (imported)
moi621 (imported) wrote: Tue Jul 03, 2012 4:20 pm
I wonder
If the Higgs Boson did not exist,
would scientist need to create one?
They recently claimed they found it.
Probably it rolled off the turnip truck
Moi
Anti Higgs Boson
To be free of the physical world.
I wonder if they had not dubbed it (for no good reason I can think of) the God Particle, would anyone be paying any attention? I have seen no one discussing why strange quarks are strange and what is charming about charmed quarks or how they differ from up and down quarks, or what you can glue with a gluon. Usually quantum mechanics doesn't get much play in the popular press.
Transward
Re: I Wonder
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:37 pm
by Dave (imported)
moi621 (imported) wrote: Tue Jul 03, 2012 4:20 pm
I wonder
If the Higgs Boson did not exist,
would scientist need to create one?
Yes. That is what happened in reality.
There is something that completes the set of subatomic particles as described by the STANDARD MODEL and it is called (for better or worse) the Higgs BOson and it expresses the Higgs Field which is what we call gravity.
And I think calling it the "God Particle" is atrocious.
You heard the joke about the Higgs Boson that goes into a catholic church and asks a priest how he could have Mass without him.
you really have to think about that for it to be funny.
Re: I Wonder
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:12 pm
by Uncle Flo (imported)
moi621 (imported) wrote: Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:42 pm
The San Francisco Bay area bridges are great examples that cash still works.
I object to the idea they can refuse cash.
There is nothing in U.S. law that compels anyone to accept U. S. currency in any amount at any time for any purpose. --FLO--
Re: I Wonder
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:25 pm
by transward (imported)
Uncle Flo (imported) wrote: Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:12 pm
There is nothing in U.S. law that compels anyone to accept U. S. currency in any amount at any time for any purpose. --FLO--
There is quite a bit in US law on the subject:
United States coins and currency (including Federal reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal reserve banks and national banks) are legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes and dues. Foreign gold or silver coins are not legal tender for debts.
ย31 U.S.C. ยง 5103
I am not enough of a lawyer to know how this relates to Moi's question. I would think tolls would be classed as a public charge.
Transward
Re: I Wonder
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:32 pm
by Riverwind (imported)
I remember the old red line that was a street car system in LA when I was a kid, it used a token just bigger then a dime, with a star in the middle of it. Why I remember that I have no idea but I think it was because the conductors did not carry money. This is not unusual or outrageous as moi would suggest, it happens all the time. Bart uses a little paper credit type card that you pass through the system, you buy an amount and when you enter and exit the system it deducts the amount. Now you can buy your cards at the Bart stations but you can also send away for them if you wish.
Hence the statement you see often,
Agents do not carry money.
Sorry Moi, but maybe its time for you to get out more.
River
