Little update, i have take the thrird dose. 96% alcohol, pain i hink 3 of 10, my testi very hard but its ok.. i am on the way...

I am back to report on my journey, I had a run in with skin cancer and I stopped the Estrogen treatments and alcohol injections. Presently, I am free of skin cancer, but I need to be rechecked every 6 months. I am slowly starting Estrogen and I will start alcohol injections in one week after the effects of the estrogen take effect. I plan to take things slowly and kill off one testicle at a time. I have CaCl2, so I am planning to mix it with Everclear, probably a 50-50 mixture for a total of 1.5ml -- thanks

PhxBeta7 (imported) wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:32 am I am back to report on my journey, I had a run in with skin cancer and I stopped the Estrogen treatments and alcohol injections. Presently, I am free of skin cancer, but I need to be rechecked every 6 months. I am slowly starting Estrogen and I will start alcohol injections in one week after the effects of the estrogen take effect. I plan to take things slowly and kill off one testicle at a time. I have CaCl2, so I am planning to mix it with Everclear, probably a 50-50 mixture for a total of 1.5ml -- thanks

Have you read much of he CaCl thread? 50/50 sounds like a bit of a strong mix and 1.5ml a bit much for one ball... The impression I got from reading the thread was that most of the folks that had medical complications seemed to have one or more of three things - an overly strong concentration of CaCl, using to much, or a lot of pre-existing damage from previous efforts.

I'm not an expert, and am doing the doctor supervised approach rather than going on my own, but it seemed that the folks reporting the best outcomes in the CaCl thread were using 20-30% CaCl mixes in fairly small quantities and giving it plenty of time to work. My recollection was that there were several posts by a Sam Kelly or something like that, who seemed to have done a lot of work on translating the animal research results into a protocol that seemed to work for many that tried it.

WheelyCurious

If you read the CaCl thread, there are a bunch of references to the research papers from doing it to many different sorts of critters, not just dogs, but also cats, rats, goats, cattle, etc. and also using several different solvents (water, alcohol, lidocaine, etc.) and concentrations.... The problem with all of those animal studies is that human balls don't respond exactly like animal balls... (sort of like the way elastrators / burdizzos work great on cattle, but not well on people)

If you go through the thread you will see a wide variety of formulas, techniques, and results, some good, (balls die, and are ignored or removed at a time of the the poster's choosing) some not great (damaged but not dead) and some REALLY bad (trip to emergency room and awkward questions....)

The reports of pain also varied a lot, but most seemed to describe a LOT of pain starting several hours after the injections, and then lasting 24-48 hours before subsiding, similarly large amounts of swelling.

All that said, I still sort of wonder why you want to go this route, instead of reaching out to a transgender clinic and doing the medical supervision track. Do you not have a good clinic where you are at? I am finding it pretty easy doing the clinic route, although I'm barely started, and I've been seeing a lot of threads by others who are also having good experiences. While CaCl seems like it might be safer than some of the other DIY options, it still is less safe, and likely more painful than anything you'd get under a doctor's care....

WheelyCurious

I have no desire to transition to female, hannesohne, and *MY* clinic experience thus far has been that they seem totally willing to support a transition to eunuch, I just got my 3rd appointment this afternoon, which I am hoping and expecting will result in beginning actual chemical castration . I understand that not all clinics may be as supportive as the one I'm dealing with, but it seems worth trying them to see, before attempting DIY methods.

I think we may have to agree to disagree about informing our partners, as my opinion is that telling your partner and getting her support is a vital part of the process. Discussing my desire to become a eunuch is something I did as the first step I took after my realization that it was what I needed to do... I love her greatly, and feel that her happiness is essential to my own, and wouldn't feel comfortable trying to hide my desire for such a major life change. I'm not sure what I would have done if she had huge objections, but fortunately her feeling is that "Its my body" and only wanted me to do a chemical test run before anything irreversible like surgery, and if at all possible to do it under medical care, which were both things I was wanting anyways...

However everyone must make their own choices about this sort of thing, and I respect that.

WheelyCurious

WheelyCurious wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:33 pm Have you read much of he CaCl thread? 50/50 sounds like a bit of a strong mix and 1.5ml a bit much for one ball... The impression I got from reading the thread was that most of the folks that had medical complications seemed to have one or more of three things - an overly strong concentration of CaCl, using to much, or a lot of pre-existing damage from previous efforts.

I'm not an expert, and am doing the doctor supervised approach rather than going on my own, but it seemed that the folks reporting the best outcomes in the CaCl thread were using 20-30% CaCl mixes in fairly small quantities and giving it plenty of time to work. My recollection was that there were several posts by a Sam Kelly or something like that, who seemed to have done a lot of work on translating the animal research results into a protocol that seemed to work for many that tried it.

WheelyCurious

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Thank you, I will do some more research on the use of CaCl. So far I have had no problems with using 190 proof Everclear. I just inject 2ml into each testicle 2 days ago. This is the highest amount that I have injected for one session. There was a lot of swelling for about 1.5 days that was about it, I now have slight swelling and no tenderness. I plan to do 5 more sessions, every 10 days to 2 weeks and then wait. I am also applying Estrogen Gel to my scrotum daily. The last hormone check showed that my T levels were about 100 which was down from 800 at the start.

Up dated on my progress. I started injections on 6-14-21 to date, I have injected 5 times with a total of 6 ml of 190 proof EC or 95% alcohol. At this point I no longer am thinking of using CACL, as I think that there is increased risk of leakage from built up scar tissue. I had my T level checked in December and it was: Total testosterone 119 ng/dL, with the castrate level of T = less than 20-50 ng/dL. At that time my Estrogen level was: Estradiol 340 pg/mL with the normal adult female range of 15 to 350 pg/mL. NOTE: It is not that I am trying to become female, but somewhere in a middle of being male/female. I have had thoughts of becoming nutless and having the surgery called "zero depth vulvoplasty and still keep my penis intact. But my desires do change with my T levels. I am married and my wife would prefer for me to get prosthetic testicles and take low dose testosterone. At this point I do have options - I feel that my sex is defined as non-binary, with gender fluid being mixed in. I would never want to be a girly girl, but if the female form takes hold of my body, then I would definitely be "butch". -- Thank you providing a this forum for self expression with a way to put in writing the feelings and the desires of us that just don't fit the mold of society.

I have been injecting 95% or 190 proof EverClear, starting with .5ml and just recently 2.0ml. In this thread, there are those that use a lesser amount of Alcohol percentage due to availability. I am on my 6th injection and each time waiting at least 3 weeks to a month and longer. Being that the testicles will repair themselves, would it be better to have less time between injections? Maybe wait 10 days to 2 weeks. It has now been 12 days since my last injection of 2.0ml which was the largest (95% alcohol) -- my testicles are almost back to normal size or not swollen. Please comment on frequency and amount -- all of your thoughts are appreciated thanks

Today is 14 days since I injected 2.0ml in each testicle -- today I injected .6 into each testicle so to date each testicle has 6.6 ml of 95% EverClear -- which is 6.3 ml of pure alcohol injected into each. My Plan is to continue with .6 ml injected into each one every 2 weeks -- for 3 more months then take a break and see the results. My decision to do only .6ml is that I am increasing to 2 times a month where prior I was doing just once a month, and that wasn't consistent. I feel that at around 10 ml total of 95% EverClear should get my T level to castrate -- I am also on transdermal estrogen which by itself will reduce my T levels and destroy my testicles over time. It is my estimation that the Alcohol will destroy tissue and with a low T level from the estrogen, there will not be any regeneration of the testicles. Once my testicles are destroyed, I can back off on the estrogen and take just enough to maintain a non-binary look. Which I want a hairless body, small boobs, small penis with an average to thin body. -- time will tell --

I’ve been doing Polmos spirytus 95/190 for about 6 months. Generally minimum period of 10 days to 14 days but when swelling has subsided. Started with a small amount like 1cc and quickly worked up to 3cc but alternate weeks. There has been some longer breaks between for travel and life getting in the way but I’m at around 35cc left and 38cc right as a running total. Sex drive has pretty much gone, scans show masses so with T test confirming it is low I have a referral to urologist. I still get occasional morning erections so there is likely some production from testicles besides the usual non testicle produced T. My goal is surgical removal and it’s my second scan so if it does not work then I’d be willing to travel for elective surgery. This thread (read from the beginning a couple of times) provided a fair amount of what I thought I needed to know before starting on this path. I can’t say I’m particularly enjoying the injections other than a sense of relief once an injection is complete that it will be a while before I need to do it again. I’d definitely not suggest anybody else doing it but for me it has been a slow path to this point and I’m still determined to see it through. I thought as my T levels declined my pursuit of castration would have waned but it has not. In reaching this point I also did two chemical trials and achieved a castrate T test on the second trial.