Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration

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RemMellow (imported) wrote: Sat May 11, 2019 6:35 am Hi everyone. I consider using using CaCl soon. I have had a bad experience with elastrator which ended up with double-sided varicocele. I feel kinda stressed about that, so I'm looking for someone who could assist and mentally support me. Feel free to PM me if you want to help.

I have a general question. How long can CaCl/Ethanol solution be kept in sealed container? I know it's best to do injection right after making solution, but it may be too stressful, so I'd like to break injection task into sub-tasks if possible.

This first time I prepared a CaCl2 solution, I did a trial that I kept for about a month before making a new solution that I used the same day. I used reagent grade CaCl2 in 95% ethanol (vodka). There was no evidence of precipitation in the older solution and I could have used it. To make certain that there was no undissolved debris I used a 0.2 micron syringe filter to sterilize the solution. I had no problem injecting through a small (I think it was 28ga) needle. I'd recommend using sterile containers used in biology or medical applications. I didn't want to take even a small risk of infection.
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notsomanly (imported) wrote: Sat May 11, 2019 6:50 am This first time I prepared a CaCl2 solution, I did a trial that I kept for about a month before making a new solution that I used the same day. I used reagent grade CaCl2 in 95% ethanol (vodka). There was no evidence of precipitation in the older solution and I could have used it. To make certain that there was no undissolved debris I used a 0.2 micron syringe filter to sterilize the solution. I had no problem injecting through a small (I think it was 28ga) needle. I'd recommend using sterile containers used in biology or medical applications. I didn't want to take even a small risk of infection.

Thank you. I'm going to use food grade CaCl and 95% ethanol from antiseptic spirit. I'll also use 0.2 micron syringe filter. I plan to keep solution in container for urine/fecal analysis. It may sound weird, but I think these containers are good enough. Moreover, I'll use syringe filters only when I'll do the injection itself, so if solution in container will not be sterile, it shouldn't pose much problem.
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RemMellow (imported) wrote: Sat May 11, 2019 8:12 am Thank you. I'm going to use food grade CaCl and 95% ethanol from antiseptic spirit. I'll also use 0.2 micron syringe filter. I plan to keep solution in container for urine/fecal analysis. It may sound weird, but I think these containers are good enough. Moreover, I'll use syringe filters only when I'll do the injection itself, so if solution in container will not be sterile, it shouldn't pose much problem.

Sounds like a good plan.
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Hm, I'm not even sure whether filter will be necessary. Wouldn't ethanol itself be good enough to sterilize solution?
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Hey Mathias, sounds like you have a plan sorted. Just take your time. Dont inject too much. What shape are your testicles in after the elastrator disaster? I dont blame you for feeling nervous. There is plenty of help and support here.
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My previous post was deleted because of link, so I'm not gonna put any links here now. I just need some advice from those who know chemistry.

It's too hard to obtain ethanol in Russia because of stupid laws, so I obtained medicine called aseptolin, which is supposed to be antiseptic. It is said to be 90% 'glyceritan' but this appears to be just a makeshift name for ethanol. It also contains glycerin and lingonberry extract, although in 0.01 and 0.03 ml per 100 ml respectively. As I remember, somebody in the thread said "if you can't drink it, don't use it". Aseptolin is supposed to be used only as antiseptic, but it's consumed by lowlife and poor alcoholics in Russia. In order to check whether it can really can be consumed, I drank ~70 ml of it. Since I haven't died, it seems to be consumable. I think that if I managed to drink 70 ml of it and stay alive, this substance can safely be used for injection with CaCl.

But I'm bad at chemistry, so I'm asking you guys if you would use this for injections by yourself.
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RemMellow (imported) wrote: Wed May 15, 2019 7:24 am My previous post was deleted because of link, so I'm not gonna put any links here now. I just need some advice from those who know chemistry.

It's too hard to obtain ethanol in Russia because of stupid laws, so I obtained medicine called aseptolin, which is supposed to be antiseptic. It is said to be 90% 'glyceritan' but this appears to be just a makeshift name for ethanol. It also contains glycerin and lingonberry extract, although in 0.01 and 0.03 ml per 100 ml respectively. As I remember, somebody in the thread said "if you can't drink it, don't use it". Aseptolin is supposed to be used only as antiseptic, but it's consumed by lowlife and poor alcoholics in Russia. In order to check whether it can really can be consumed, I drank ~70 ml of it. Since I haven't died, it seems to be consumable. I think that if I managed to drink 70 ml of it and stay alive, this substance can safely be used for injection with CaCl.

But I'm bad at chemistry, so I'm asking you guys if you would use this for injections by yourself.

I wouldn't use it. What about vodka? Give me a day or two, I've got a chemistry book that details a method on how to remove the water from alcohol so you can purify the vodka. I think it's a process of adding salt and waiting until separate layers form and then you siphon off either the water or the alcohol. I think the salt drops to the bottom of the container. I'll see if I can find it and then I'll post it.
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Does it matter if the solution is of CaCl2 in sterile water vs CaCl2 in alcohol?
zmark181 (imported) wrote: Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:54 am Anyone used Ball Pickle Crisp Granules
(pure CaCl2 found at Walmart) to make their solution?
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I can't find the book. I would use vodka with the highest proof that I could find.
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zmark181 (imported) wrote: Wed May 15, 2019 1:36 pm Does it matter if the solution is of CaCl2 in sterile water vs CaCl2 in alcohol?
zmark181 (imported) wrote: Wed May 15, 2019 1:36 pm 868440]
Anyone used Ball Pickle Crisp Granules
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(pure CaCl2 found at Walmart) to make their solution?

There is some really good evidence from veterinary studies that shows that ethanol is the best solvent. It took two injections, separated by several months, but I experienced no significant pain and my testicles have been reduced to small hard rocks.
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