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Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:05 am
by Cseriess (imported)
Thank you for your input and advice gents.
Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:15 pm
by MadScience (imported)
sparkey49 (imported) wrote: Mon Nov 26, 2018 6:38 am
Don’t ever expect recovery from testicles injected with Calcium Chloride mine were destroyed by one injection which was my desire but if you want possible recovery use alcohol or don’t risk anything!
I completely agree with Sparkey. Even though I used a smaller amount of a weaker solution (1.1mL of 32% CaCl2 aqueous), and while I think it took longer (about 10 months), it killed the nut with 100% certainty and turned it into a shriveled marble of hardened scar tissue. It basically pickles your ball from the inside (CaCl2 is a strong salt, so the solution is literally brine), and due to the very high osmotic pressure - fluid moves from an area of low solute concentration, inside the cells, to an area of high solute concentration, outside - it causes all of the cells inside your testicle to pop. The capsule itself is unaffected. Pretty amazing to experience, but no going back.
- MadScience
Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:28 pm
by MadScience (imported)
Cseriess (imported) wrote: Sat Nov 24, 2018 3:30 am
Ok, thanks. I bought syringes with sharp needless. Will saline do permanent damage? I have been reading through this thread for a couple of days now, not sure I saw this.
Regular 0.9% sterile saline is roughly equivalent to what's in serous fluid in the tissues naturally. Pressure is the main thing to consider. You may find pushing 1mL into a testicle very painful the first time - go very, very slow. You will probably be able to work up to 10mL over time, maybe more. I worked up to "almost" 40mL one time. I had a 20mL syringe and it had gone well, so I thought I'd see how far I could get into another. It took all of it surprisingly, but less than a minute later I felt a 'wet' sensation inside the sack, and the ball deflated to a little under normal size - completely painless. It had apparently blown out, not enough to fully rupture, but enough to leak the liquid back out. I iced it and kept it immobilized as well as I could, and amazingly it healed up in about three weeks and became firm again. It's likely that, because I needled that ball several times, it 'gave' at a spot I had punctured or scraped, and that actually relieved pressure, and prevented it from popping.
To keep it short, don't push ridiculous amounts - an adult testicle is almost always in the range of 20-30mL, so injecting more than the natural volume in saline, more than doubling its size, is probably a bad idea - and you'll probably have an enjoyable time.
- MadScience
Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:17 am
by Cseriess (imported)
Thanks. The syringes arrived, short needless, but probably go 1/2" into the testicle. Might experiment with fluid today
Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:51 am
by notsomanly (imported)
It's just [quote="r1honour (imported)"
four months since
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my first and only injections. I had stopped taking Androcur several months ago and started Estradiol a short time later. I've been off all drugs that affect testosterone for about three weeks to prepare for my yearly physical. I wanted to see where my levels are in the drug-free state. Just got back my lab report: Total T - 261 ng/dL; Free - 9.66 ng/dL I have been noticing occasional morning wood and just a bit of libido. My left testicle has shrunk dramatically, but the right one, after shrinking to ~ 1/3 its original size, seems to be getting a bit larger. I'll wait another month or so but it looks like a second round of injections may be in order. It seems that I really do need to get down into the castrate range. Completely killing off both nuts and taking Estradiol seems like the right course for me. I've not yet experienced really low T without taking Androcur or Estradiol.
Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 11:08 am
by notsomanly (imported)
It's just [quote="r1honour (imported)"
four months since
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my first and only injections. I had stopped taking Androcur several months ago and started Estradiol a short time later. I've been off all drugs that affect testosterone for about three weeks to prepare for my yearly physical. I wanted to see where my levels are in the drug-free state. Just got back my lab report: Total T - 261 ng/dL; Free - 9.66 ng/dL I have been noticing occasional morning wood and just a bit of libido. My left testicle has shrunk dramatically, but the right one, after shrinking to ~ 1/3 its original size, seems to be getting a bit larger. I'll wait another month or so but it looks like a second round of injections may be in order. It seems that I really do need to get down into the castrate range. Completely killing off both nuts and taking Estradiol
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seems like the right course for me. I've not yet experienced really low T without taking Androcur or Estradiol.
Oh, almost forgot, the rest of my blood tests came back perfectly normal. PSA has dropped from 3.54 to 1.4 ng/mL since a year ago. Low-T has certainly done a number on my prostate.
Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration
Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 10:11 am
by zmark181 (imported)
39yo male have started today chemical castration with CaCl2.
Firts is why? Everyone has different reasons, and we can easily judge, but in my case it started with two girlfiriends leaving me for a alpha male, my (former) friend, a 6'2" big muscular guy, a bulging package in his pants, that just got those girls hooked. He married my last girlfriend.
Since then, I developed a sense of inferirority towards alpha men, a cuckold attitude, and a desire to be castrated and left limp, unable to ever satisfy a woman. I have a history of lumps on my testicles (playing with saline injections in my testicles for past 5 yrs) and my doctor mentioned that if the situation worsens he recommends orchiectomy.
Over this last year i kept reading the forum and then took the decision to do it. I want to document my progress and seek advice.
Day 1: 12.22.2018
Made solution of 4mL 193 proof alcohol with a quarter table spoon of CaCl2 granules (food grade CaCl2 from product called Ball Pickle Crisp).
After about 5 min only about 2/3 of the granules have dissolved. I injected both testicles, each in 3 spots with a 27G 1/2needle syringe.
Initially there was no pain. 5 hrs later I am at pain 2 on a scale 1-10. Testicles are tender and a bit swollen.
Will this be enough? Has anyone else tried the Ball Pickle Crisp method (as it says is pure CaCl2)? Is the solution I made concentrated enough?
How long should i wait for results or how soon to re-inject?
Any advice, comment welcomed.
Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 8:08 am
by zmark181 (imported)
Day 2 12.23.2018
Pain 5 on a 10 scale. Left testicle swollen to 130%, right testicle swollen to 200%. It's not different than my previous alcohol injections. The temptation is to re-inject CaCl2 soon. can someone with experience tell me how soon one sees shrinkage results? How soon did you see the doctor to get ultrasond have have them removed?
No fever. Will post once ten days or once a month.
Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 9:42 am
by notsomanly (imported)
zmark181 (imported) wrote: Sun Dec 23, 2018 10:11 am
39yo male have started today chemical castration with CaCl2.
Firts is why? Everyone has different reasons, and we can easily judge, but in my case it started with two girlfiriends leaving me for a alpha male, my (former) friend, a 6'2" big muscular guy, a bulging package in his pants, that just got those girls hooked. He married my last girlfriend.
Since then, I developed a sense of inferirority towards alpha men, a cuckold attitude, and a desire to be castrated and left limp, unable to ever satisfy a woman. I have a history of lumps on my testicles (playing with saline injections in my testicles for past 5 yrs) and my doctor mentioned that if the situation worsens he recommends orchiectomy.
Over this last year i kept reading the forum and then took the decision to do it. I want to document my progress and seek advice.
Day 1: 12.22.2018
Made solution of 4mL 193 proof alcohol with a quarter table spoon of CaCl2 granules (food grade CaCl2 from product called Ball Pickle Crisp).
After about 5 min only about 2/3 of the granules have dissolved. I injected both testicles, each in 3 spots with a 27G 1/2needle syringe.
Initially there was no pain. 5 hrs later I am at pain 2 on a scale 1-10. Testicles are tender and a bit swollen.
Will this be enough? Has anyone else tried the Ball Pickle Crisp method (as it says is pure CaCl2)? Is the solution I made concentrated enough?
How long should i wait for results or how soon to re-inject?
Any advice, comment welcomed.
I injected with 20% CaCl2 dihydrate in 95% ethanol four months ago; 1.5 cc in the larger left testicle and 1.2 cc in the right. Very little pain, but it didn't totally destroy them. Without any drugs for three weeks I'm getting a little horny and some morning wood. So I'll probably need to inject again. It's hard to say what the concentration of the solution you used might have been since the CaCl2 didn't all go into solution. Made up the way I did it should all dissolve. The damage to testicles continues over several months, so it's best to wait to see how well the first injection works before doing another. Some guys on this site have reported needing only a single injection; others have had to repeat. Here's the procedure used for sterilizing dogs that several of us have used:
grout786 found this detailed description:
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http://www.spayfirst.org/wp-content/upl ... nglish.pdf
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The only significant deviation was to use a 0.2 micron syringe filter to draw the solution up into the syringes.
Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 10:05 am
by notsomanly (imported)
Sam Kelly's posts on pages 84 and 85 are highly recommended reading for anyone considering CaCl2 injections.