MadScience (imported) wrote: Mon Aug 27, 2018 5:19 pm Hi there,

The normal dose volume is remarkably consistent at 1.0 to 1.5ml, at a minimum concentration of 20%, though I would recommend 30-50%. Mixing in sterile water works fine, but mixing it in high purity Ethanol (like Everclear) makes it more effective, faster. Using more than 1.5ml per testicle is never a good idea, as it can leak back out. The capsule is fairly impervious and keep the effects nicely confined inside, but tissues of the scrotum outside are not.

Using less than 1.0ml leaves the possibility of not reaching everywhere and completing the job. At that point, switching to Ethanol *might* be an option, but CaCl should never follow anything but previous plain saline. It should be the only thing used, one time. If done right it is a super simple, guaranteed one-injection kill. If you get impatient and inject CaCl after previous Ethanol injections, or a prior CaCl injection - with all of the hardening they do inside - it is very likely to easily leak back out and cause big problems.

On the other hand, if you tie off the ball and keep it vertical, enter from the top towards the front with about a 1" 25ga or thinner needle, you should be able to very slowly (count off 20 seconds or so) inject all of the CaCl solution well into the center and keep it there, letting gravity help you. Keeping a hand towel held

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against the side of the needle

when you withdraw it will wick away any liquid following the needle out, and it's a good idea to make the other end of the towel wet, so you can wet wipe/re-dry the surface before you put a flexible bandage on. Leave it lightly banded like that for a good 20min to keep everything in place. I masturbated gently to distribute the solution around, which worked very well (and I came really hard, probably from the thought of what was happening ). Since I used an aqueous 32% solution, it took about five months for it to fully die and harden (I only had one), and the lumpy, smaller than marble size remnant is still re-absorbing slowly (I injected in May of 2017).

If I had it to do over again, the only thing I'd change would be to use an ethanol solution, probably 40-50% strength so I could watch the effects go more quickly. It's very, very definite - once that plunger hits bottom, the ball is definitely going to die, it's just a matter of waiting - but I think it would've been even more interesting to watch swell and shrivel and inflate again in different uneven shapes, trying to save itself, but more quickly.

Those are my experience
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s and thoughts, I hope they're helpful!

MadScience

MadScience has good advice. I agree that you probably don't need anything like 1.5ml since your balls are small. The 31 ga needle will almost certainly guarantee no leakage, but how long is it? If it's a typical insulin syringe then it might be too short. One inch long is much better.

notsomanly (imported) wrote: Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:26 am MadScience has good advice. I agree that you probably don't need anything like 1.5ml since your balls are small. The 31 ga needle will almost certainly guarantee no leakage, but how long is it? If it's a typical insulin syringe then it might be too short. One inch long is much better.

FYI I have recently found 3/4 in long 30 ga needles, and used to inject my right testicle that had been previously damaged with alcohol (T levels down to 44), but that still showed "normal vascularity" on ultrasound. Yes I broke MadScience's rules, but had ZERO leakage with that needle, and 3/4" was long enough to get to center of an already atrophied testicle. Using <3/4 ml of 75%CaCl/25% Everclear 150, the testicle blew up to size of a small lemon, then has shrunk back down to where it is almost all the way back up into the inguinal canal. Planning to finish off the left the same way to see if I can finally get the, removed, but have been interrupted by partner's recent ovarian cancer diagnosis and treatment.

Thanks for your replies.

I will try with an 1ml serynge, and a bit longer. I'm afraid to try, and it's the best option.

TooMuchT (imported) wrote: Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:07 pm FYI I have recently found 3/4 in long 30 ga needles, and used to inject my right testicle that had been previously damaged with alcohol (T levels down to 44), but that still showed "normal vascularity" on ultrasound. Yes I broke MadScience's rules, but had ZERO leakage with that needle, and 3/4" was long enough to get to center of an already atrophied testicle. Using <3/4 ml of 75%CaCl/25% Everclear 150, the testicle blew up to size of a small lemon, then has shrunk back down to where it is almost all the way back up into the inguinal canal. Planning to finish off the left the same way to see if I can finally get the, removed, but have been interrupted by partner's recent ovarian cancer diagnosis and treatment.

Sorry to hear of your partner's ovarian cancer. I hope she has a good prognosis.

Good information about your experience with a small needle. Maybe that's the biggest factor in avoiding leakage. That size needle is perfectly adequate if the solution is well filtered and using such a small one makes it harder to inject too fast.

Update: After swelling by 25% in the first day or two following injection, my testicles have now shrunken by half, three weeks later. This is as small as they've ever been, even on Androcur, which I'm still taking. Anxious to see how fast they continue to shrink. If they do, then I'll know the CaCl2 is working as advertised. Still, absolutely no pain.

notsomanly (imported) wrote: Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:49 am Sorry to hear of your partner's ovarian cancer. I hope she has a good prognosis.

Good information about your experience with a small needle. Maybe that's the biggest factor in avoiding leakage. That size needle is perfectly adequate if the solution is well filtered and using such a small one makes it harder to inject too fast.

Thanks. She recently had surgery and the outlook looks positive, so may be time to work on finishing off the left one.

Since I had damaged mine previously with a long series of alcohol injections, it helped to spend some time kneading HARD a lot to try to bust up scar tissue before reinjecting. I also gave it a low dose of alcohol a couple weeks prior, both as a trial run, but also to get it a bit “loosened up”.

notsomanly (imported) wrote: Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:20 am Update: After swelling by 25% in the first day or two following injection, my testicles have now shrunken by half, three weeks later. This is as small as they've ever been, even on Androcur, which I'm still taking. Anxious to see how fast they continue to shrink. If they do, then I'll know the CaCl2 is working as advertised. Still, absolutely no pain.

you only will notice the real effects of calcium chloride when you stop androcur and the blood T level mantains in a steady castration state the following 3 to 6 months

Frida G Cavic (imported) wrote: Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:18 am you only will notice the real effects of calcium chloride when you stop androcur and the blood T level mantains in a steady castration state the following 3 to 6 months

It has only been a month since I injected and am very much looking forward to being in the castrated state sans Androcur.

notsomanly (imported) wrote: Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:20 am Update: After swelling by 25% in the first day or two following injection, my testicles have now shrunken by half, three weeks later. This is as small as they've ever been, even on Androcur, which I'm still taking. Anxious to see how fast they continue to shrink. If they do, then I'll know the CaCl2 is working as advertised. Still, absolutely no pain.

Update: Five weeks after injecting, they are continuing to shrink, now only 35-40% of original size. The left one is getting hard and lumpy and small enough that it's harder to measure. I have increasing confidence that the deed is done. I'm continuing on Androcur for now and noticing definite breast growth. I love their shape, nice and conical with a beautiful shape. I've always thought that female breasts could be incredibly beautiful and still feel that way even with almost no libido. Seeing my own develop I've come to want them to continue filling out as much as they can. I'll start estradiol as soon as I can receive an order.

It's amazing how, going step-by-step down this path, I emerge at a new stage with desires for further change I wouldn't have predicted. I had no idea how wonderful my life would become before suppressing T. I feel terrific and my wife loves the new me even more than before. I'm less distracted and more attentive to her. I cook more and do more domestic tasks than before. Now I realize that I love having a more feminine body. No sense of wanting to transition M-F as yet, but who knows what the future holds? Right now, M-E is most appealing. At the rate my testicles are shrinking I may be a eunuch before year's end. My annual physical is coming up in December so I'll see what my internist thinks. some say that female physicians are more inclined to recommend castration than males so I'll see.

notsomanly (imported) wrote: Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:10 am Update: Five weeks after injecting, they are continuing to shrink, now only 35-40% of original size. The left one is getting hard and lumpy and small enough that it's harder to measure. I have increasing confidence that the deed is done. I'm continuing on Androcur for now and noticing definite breast growth. I love their shape, nice and conical with a beautiful shape. I've always thought that female breasts could be incredibly beautiful and still feel that way even with almost no libido. Seeing my own develop I've come to want them to continue filling out as much as they can. I'll start estradiol as soon as I can receive an order.

It's amazing how, going step-by-step down this path, I emerge at a new stage with desires for further change I wouldn't have predicted. I had no idea how wonderful my life would become before suppressing T. I feel terrific and my wife loves the new me even more than before. I'm less distracted and more attentive to her. I cook more and do more domestic tasks than before. Now I realize that I love having a more feminine body. No sense of wanting to transition M-F as yet, but who knows what the future holds? Right now, M-E is most appealing. At the rate my testicles are shrinking I may be a eunuch before year's end. My annual physical is coming up in December so I'll see what my internist thinks. some say that female physicians are more inclined to recommend castration than males so I'll see.

congrats i injected again two days ago