There are few doctors who are willing to prescribe chemical castration to men for non medical reasons or non sex offender reasons, and there are even fewer willing to prescribe E to non transgender men.

I learned very well that even not having balls is no justification for E to be prescribed, and just not having proper T levels would be even less likely to be a justification.

There really is no way to convince your typical doctor to prescribe E or even chem castration to a normal guy for non-medical reasons. You could try saying you have inappropriate sexual urges that you fear you may act on (feelings toward children, overwhelming desire to rape, etc.) But not only would you then have the stigma those issues carry, the doctor would probably still refuse to prescribe you anything until you have seen a therapist and find that there is no way that therapy alone could help you work through the urges.

I don't really see not having much of a choice of doctors where one lives being a good excuse for allowing a doctor to give one the runaround. There is always the option of driving yourself to the nearest good-sized city, getting a friend to take you, hitchhiking, or finding some other way to get to another doctor. Some will even treat you by phone as long as they see you once in person.

I have many more questions than comments, but I have been on spiro for about 6 months. I feel much calmer without the tension that my testosterone caused me. I have been a transvestite for over 50 years and more of a transgendered the past half dozen. Now without testosterone fueling me, I don't have interest in porn, dressing up to get aroused, etc. Lots of formerly wasted time now available. I feared the effects on the body from lower testosterone--think it's almost none now (I am 61 and probably was far declined without the spiro)---so I do resistence training exercises at a health club about 2-3 times a week. This is good for everyone-especially after age 40-and try to take calcium. I don't think I get depressed from no testosterone fouling up my brain. I am also using-on and off- an estrogen patch, but that is another matter probably not of interest to readers. I would love to find a source for a saliva test of my testosterone if available--don't want to spend tons of dough on blood work, MD visits,etc. any suggestions? thanks, Helen

Hey Kristoff,

No offense was taken. I would of said the same thing a year ago. Forums are for expressing opinions. I value yours as others. I listen and make up my mine. Fair enough.

love Gary

helen (imported) wrote: Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:16 pm I have many more questions than comments, but I have been on spiro for about 6 months. I feel much calmer without the tension that my testosterone caused me. I have been a transvestite for over 50 years and more of a transgendered the past half dozen. Now without testosterone fueling me, I don't have interest in porn, dressing up to get aroused, etc. Lots of formerly wasted time now available. I feared the effects on the body from lower testosterone--think it's almost none now (I am 61 and probably was far declined without the spiro)---so I do resistence training exercises at a health club about 2-3 times a week. This is good for everyone-especially after age 40-and try to take calcium. I don't think I get depressed from no testosterone fouling up my brain. I am also using-on and off- an estrogen patch, but that is another matter probably not of interest to readers. I would love to find a source for a saliva test of my testosterone if available--don't want to spend tons of dough on blood work, MD visits,etc. any suggestions? thanks, Helen

Helen,

Actually I'm interested in your estrogen patch.