Eunuch Tshirt?

[Beau Geste (imported)]

I think most people feel (or would feel) awkward in the presence of someone who they know to be a eunuch. It's the old problem of not knowing what to do, because society doesn't provide a behavior pattern to follow in situations like that. Of course, having accessed this website for over a year, I know what to do if you encounter a eunuch--just treat him like you would anybody else. But the general public doesn't know that, and I wonder if wearing a T shirt that announced your sex condition, wouldn't be the sort of thing that would be appropriate only in a limited number of situations.

In general, I never wear any clothing with a message or the name of a institution on it. Only time I ever did, was when I had a windbreaker with the seal of the university I attended, on it. Don't even know where it is now. I've always wanted to have a Winsor and Newton windbreaker (lets everybody know you're a would-be artist) but you can't get them any more. You can buy Winsor and Newton artist's smocks.

As to T shirts with a eunuch theme, I don't think many of the ideas in previous posts would actually convey to the general public that one was a eunuch or was a supporter of voluntary eunuchism. M2E is good symbolically, but nobody except a few social scientists and archive members, has any idea what it means. A lot of people would assume it's the name of a rock group. Eu looks like a chemical symbol, and maybe it would be taken for that. Or maybe there are people who can finish a word. M & F, Why not E is one that some people could figure out, most couldn't. Of course, Thank God I'm Castrated is pretty straightforward. I still think windbreakers are better than T shirts for that sort of thing, but they are somewhat more expensive.

Anyway, here are a few possible T shirt messages that come to mind. Most are in the nature of in-jokes that only archive members and other initiates would understand.

Viva il coltello! -- Old cry from opera audiences when a castrato sang a particularly good aria.

Fixed and Proud -- I think an archive member once had that under his avatar.

I had the balls to have an orchiectomy -- That one is self-explanatory.

My sac is empty, but my cups are full -- For somebody with breast development.

Sure I've got balls--they're in a jar on my dresser -- True for some folks, it seems.

Cybele got mine -- You had to be castrated to be a priest of Cybele

Yes, it's empty--but it's also comfortable -- A fact, I guess, for Flo and others.

What I had done, is impossible for a woman, terrifying for a man, and routine for a dog -- Ah, so.

Balls? Mine are on the back of my truck -- Probably where a few have the plastic variety.

I've got the balls of a Byzantine -- For history buffs.

Look, Ma--no balls! -- Would clearly be a shocker for some mamas.

A few nonverbal T shirt designs could be interesting. A picture of an elastrator tool, with the band stretched tight on it, would convey something. Or an image of a scrotum with little wings attached, flying off into the distance. Or a picture of a guy in a hospital gown, with his eyes wide open in shock, as a surgeon reaches under his gown with a scalpel.

[Kangan (imported)]

A

picture of a guy in a hospital gown, with his eyes wide open in shock, as a surgeon reaches under his gown with a scalpel.

That one works for me!:D

[mrt (imported)]

"I had the balls to have an orchiectomy" Twice! If you do one side at a time. And how about "Balls? Two in the Jar and Two in the sack" if you have implants done.

I like the Opera one but... As you know having an Orchiectomy(s) after puberty does nothing to you vocal range. Which in my case is good. I'm squeek enough !

[thefraj (imported)]

Wow lol a tasteful T-shirt is an awesome idea. Nice one, Incuse!

Some great ideas so far. When I thought about slogan, the first that popped into my head was the immortal line : "It takes balls to have them removed". I'd definitely wear that around town

Though I would probably go for something a bit less flamboyant, and perhaps more reserved like the Eu or M2E idea. Though Eu does sound a little like it referrs to Europe and M2E sounds like one of those newish drugs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2C-E) that the boys and girls are using nowadays lol.

[incuse (imported)]

Of all the ideas given, I'm liking Krister's best, simply M2E. If positioned correctly on a shirt it could be simply mistaken for "ME 2" so for folks that aren't open minded, a cop out is easily available on it's meaning.

Right now the HRC (http://www.hrc.org/) uses a simple Blue and Yellow Equal sign as their logo. If it's not known what the logo is, then it's basic interpretation is non offensive to *anyone*. If the logo is recognized by others, then it's quickly known what the wearer is supportive of.

I think thats what I want here -- we could be working on the next universally known Eunuch logo.

As for the doctor under a gown idea, sorry -- I'm no artist, not even a stick figure artist. Maybe that avenue could be ventured by someone more ballsy than I.

Jesus sent me a very good graphic of "M2E" that I may throw up on cafepress.com here shortly and see how it looks on a shirt.

Also, once we get the idea down pat, we should consider the position on the shirt. Put it on the breast plate? Front middle, front top, back top, back middle? I'm thinking just back-top football jersey style.

[devi (imported)]

I always wanted one that says "My tenor is higher than your soprano".

(When in a choir we had once gone over the fact with the director that a male could not be considered a soprano. And that the highest he was able to be designated was that of a tenor. And yet I could sing higher than most of the sopranos. Believe it or not one of the girls got totally bent out of shape on that one.)

[mrt (imported)]

If the male symbol is the circle with the arrow going out of the upper right would you ahh... remove the circle? Humm... No, women have the circle also. Of in their case maybe thats the Ovaries vrs the Testes?

I'm thinking more along the line of a shirt that says

In case of emegency inject Testosterone!

Powered by Androgel.

Mr Testosterone.

etc etc

[incuse (imported)]

Alright. Jesus sent in a nice logo that I liked and put onto a cafepress.com store.

You can see the logo in all it's galore at http://www.cafepress.com/rathervague

If a better one isn't produced from this thread in the next few days, I'll probably order one of these for myself.

BTW, the prices, I have no control over. I listed everything at Cafepress's base price (Lowest I could go...) so I'm making no profits here.

If anyone else feels up to making a logo, please feel free to forward me the image and I'll put it up.

[gunpowdercub (imported)]

Hmm. Not exactly, MrT. This would be a two color design. One circle with both the low crossbar AND the arrow. And the red slashed circle "no" superimposed on it. To me, it would mean the wearer is neither male nor female.

[gunpowdercub (imported)]

heh. love the thong...