Hey what, I saw the Fraj on TV last night! Channel 4, a commercial channel

(not connected with the BBC) have started 'trailing' the programme and in

prime evening time.

The channel does have a website so that you can see programmes broadcast over the last month. You have to pay per programme and I think that you need a UK internet address and bank account in order to download the software and programme guide.

Form London, (Danny) thank you for the postings you've written ahead of the broadcast. I'm sure that it will have a large and mainly, interested audience because Channel 4 has made sensitive programmes on specialised subjects quite frequently. I didn't understand one word of Paolo's informed IT speak, but I intend to make a PAL VHS video recording of the programme.

a link to the channel 4 website you might be interested in

http://www.channel4.com/health/microsit ... index.html

lookinginuk (imported) wrote: Sat Mar 31, 2007 12:08 pm a link to the channel 4 website you might be interested in

http://www.channel4.com/health/microsit ... index.html

There is important information about the documentary on the site, though some of our UK members might be amused to learn that nearly all eunuchs in the country are heavily into SM! Maybe someone can point out to Channel 4 that this is NOT correct....

Of greatest interest to me was the poll at the end of the "Talking Points" page where visitors were asked, "Should voluntary castration be allowed?" At the time when I read the page, 78% had answered "yes" and only 22% thought the answer should be "no". This before the documentary has been aired.

Make certain that you visit the site AND take the poll.

So far, so good. Doesn't seem to be a slasher piece by any means. I only saw the one negative thing that was mentioned in a previous post.

Homptydompty is in it.. cool. This should be an interesting film.

twaddler (imported) wrote: Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:40 pm Homptydompty is in it.. cool. This should be an interesting film.

Hompty/Zac and Thefraj/Roger are two of our important members here. I spoke with Thefraj today on the phone. The director of the film is taking the train up from London tomorrow to give him a preview of the film before it is shown on national TV. They have also arranged for a publicity agent for him (as the most identifiable person profiled in the film and one who is in the UK). Thefraj has already had two interviews (with photographers present) and both interviews will be on the newstands the day that the film airs – one in a women's magazine and the other in a national newspaper.

I will ask Thefraj to post a brief comment on his reaction to the film after seeing it (and I've already scheduled a time to talk with him about it on Sunday).

If the film is as good as we hope it will be, every member here who can afford it should BUY a copy as soon as it becomes available in order to support the producer and director for their efforts. I would certainly plan to buy multiple copies to send to friends.

PUBLIC AWARENESS AND UNDERSTANDING

... This is what we all need. I think the first major step is to bring this out in the open, and to reveal that the men who want this surgery are sane, mature, thoughtful and deliberate. Elective surgeries have all had their initial difficulty with public acceptance. Facelifts. Breast enhancements. Tummy-tucks. All were at first scorned.

The real difference in male genital surgery is that most men have trouble with being objective with their "privates". And women are careful not to offend.

With so many men wanting "MORE" -ie. penis enhancement pills, potions and lotions that are being hawked everywhere - it's impossible for many to understand why some of us want LESS. Wouldn't it be great if we could sell or donate what we don't want to those who want more?

As for me: I'm deadly serious about having my full nullo surgery quite soon, and prefer the entire project - including plastination of my severed penis, testicles, scrotum and pubic scalp, and finally their display in the museum - be documented on film and shown to the widest possible public audience. The problem of filming the experience would have included the physician-surgeon, who was terrified of damage to his business.

If anyone out there knows how I can proceed, let me know.

Salami

PS: A major goal for me is to see my penis, Elmo (but not me) become famous.

Does your surgeon not wear a mask during surgery? And therefore during filming... Identities can be quite easily cloaked.

I don't know this for sure, but I doubt whether anyone can buy a copy of this programme or any other from Channel 4.

With a Broadband connection, 4OD (4 On Demand) is service where net users can watch programmes for a while after they've been aired. I believe you need to set up an account with the On Demand Service and have a UK ISP account and bank. I don't think they do overseas sales, but I just might be wrong.

As a suggestion I would urge all UK readers/ Guests/ Members of the Archive to record the programme whilst it is being transmitted nationally.If we have a selection of recordings made on both DVD and VHS, then maybe they can be tweaked so that viewers in North America and Germany etc.. might see it.

Sadly, although Channel 4 is on satellite and beams all over Europe, it is also encrypted (unlike the BBC and some other commercial broadcasters) which restricts access to Sky TV equipment. If you make a recording then why not send a Private Message to Paolo or Jesus or Huevon?

It would probably please the Channel and the makers of the programme if you include the commercial breaks also. If Form London dislike this suggestion, then please post your own suggestions to informed readers here from across Europe, N America and beyond, who want to see the programme?

After I have read the replies in this thread I have to disagree with the Fraj and the others that this documentary will be objective, balanced, accurate and fair.

Not everybody is a "voluntary" eunuch and becomes one after being castrated.

I am not seeing any mention of people who are part of this community and the fact of becoming eunuchs by medical negligence,accidents,mental disorders,sickness,disease,act of God and other reasons.

The documentary should include their point of view to make it a real documentary. Otherwise it just becomes a piece of one- sided propaganda. Sorry, that is my opinion.

I am able to provide NTSC DVD from a VHS PAL tape if anybody needs one,providing I have a PAL VHS of the film. H.

The film would seem to have been targeted to a specific topic, Voluntary Eunuchs. Not eunuchs in general, accidental eunuchs, negligently caused eunuchdom, etc. Voluntary eunuchs. Let us keep that in mind when we watch the video (if we can watch it) to see if it accurately and fairly portrays that segment of this community.

Just to let you all know, Danny was kind enough to come all the way from London to the North-West with a copy of the DVD to watch. Before I comment on the documentary itself, I would like to address the issue of anonymity which was mentioned since I last posted.

A few days ago, I found the publicity getting on top of me a little, until Tugon reminded me of something. It would have been very easy for me to remain anonymous and be interviewed, hoping that this would keep my family life, my work life and my friends unaffected. But what would have been achieved if not further segregation from mainstream society? Had I done something wrong? Am I ashamed of myself? Of course not! When - then - should it follow that I must cower in the shadows?

I have a couple of jobs at the moment. And I wonder if some of the people who know me there are reading these words? I'm spending these last few days making sure everyone (even those I don't see very often!) knows the whole truth at one place of work. Everyone has been very nice so far. The complication is that one of my jobs is at a highschool. Some of the pupils have already told me they saw me on TV in the trailer already mentioned. This did worry me, as I'm sure - eventually - a parent will find out, and become (understandibly?) upset. Perhaps they are here reading these words now?

I also consider myself fortunate to have a very close (and understanding friend) who is currently a police community support officer. She took it upon herself to tell the people she works about me, and I suspect (hope?) some of them will be watching too. Which is probably quite important, as we are a minority too! And surely deserve the same rights and protection as any other. But the amount of awareness this must be generating in my little home town must be invaluable.

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Anyway, I was pleased with what I saw in the documentary itself. There were moments when I was worried where it was all going, but - often by subtle twist - there was usually a point to be made. The documentary itself focused on four people, but makes a good point of emphasizing that they are not alone.

It was opened with the "Master Rick" business (as we discussed in other threads!) but turned out to be far more tasteful than I had feared; there were no gorey scenes of blood and knives or cages from the ceiling or body parts in fridges as I first thought. But rather, Danny (beautifully! ^_^) narrates the event matter-of-factly as a brief background to the case of people wanting castration, but being shunned by the medical community and having nowhere to achieve it. This - as with much of it - gave me a great sense of relief that the gorey, surreal sensationalism was really not the aim.

Without going into too much detail, I was actually quite surprised at the choice of characters. They were very diverse and quite different people. But the choices do strike me as reflecting the range of characters likely to be found in our community. Even though I will openly admit that I had trouble connecting with a couple of them. But I particularly liked the interesting mix of people at different points in the gender spectrum. Anyone who believes things are as simple as male-female will find their head spinning by about half way through!