Castration -- the only way out?

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I believe that the root of most sex problems is religion, and its thoughts on how to control people! Life will be easier when you fully realize that God loves you period no matter if your good or bad. Also the feelings of Guilt is the difference between a good person and a bad person. Feeling guilty about masturbating and splashing semen all over the place is your parents talking! Its your priest, pastor, or rabbi talking. Its the world telling you "THIS IS HOW YOU SHOULD FEEL!" True feelings of guilt are things like stealing from the store. God sent you hear to learn and experience then report back.

One last thing, If you want to get rid of the nuts wrap them in hamburger then call in a pit bull!

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TheWannabe (imported) wrote: Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:22 pm I'm 21 years old. By now, it has become obvious to me that I am never going to find the girlfriend I want. I'm not handsome myself, and even start to become a little fat, yet I would never want an ugly girlfriend. Despite this, I don't consider myself superficial. I simply have been searching for a beautiful, sweet, cute, and intelligent girl. All my attempts over the years have been fruitless. I am now depressed and everything feels hopeless.

I have a lot of femdom fantasies -- I've had them since a little kid -- but I think I'm 50% submissive and 50% dominant. I have castration fantasies. This story I would love to have happen to me: http://www.asstr.org/~Kristen/putrid/casparty.htm

Alright. I don't have the balls to cut off my own balls(!). Even if it was done in the way I want to to be done, or in a hospital without pain, I would probably regret it afterwards.

Yet I can't stop thinking of how nice it would be to finally be releaved from the constant pain of being overly horny all the damn time. I will most likely never get to live out my fantasies, not even if I become really rich. So wouldn't the most humane thing for me to do to get castrated?

Like many of you, the thought of a beautiful, dominant female forcing my balls off turns me on. But what's after that? I have read a lot about eunuchs, so I have a pretty good idea, but I don't think it's possible to fully grasp how it feels until you've done it. And I probably won't do it.

But GOD I hate the feeling of those stupid balls between my legs. It would be nice to just have a penis there. And frankly, I hate cleaning up the cum after I've jerked off. No cum would just be a pro side for me...

But I guess it's hard to get hard when you have no balls. Hrm...

Aren't there any pills that you can eat that have no side effects and simply make you lose interest in sex? I would love to learn about those. Especially if they are cheap. This would be much better than getting a castration, which is so definite and permanent.

I guess if there were any such thing, most of you wouldn't seek castration. But I guess I can always hope for them to come up with this "reversed viagra" pill. (I would buy from a spam mail if they offered me it!)

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I strongly suggest that you try the least harmful experiments first. In my opinion, the least harmful thing to try is Tamoxifen. Taking 10 mg/day for a week should temporarily eliminate your libido, making it easier for you to think about your options. When you stop taking Tamoxifen, it will take about a month for your libido to return. I think that this is because the smallest size, 10 mg, is too much. Experiment with one tablet every two or three days and you will also have less risk of side effects. I have read recently that the original dosage determination (for treating breast cancer) were too high.

Don't use it with something else, like Androcur, which will, at the least, cause sterility if you use it too long. You don't need less testosterone if you lose your interest in sex.

Added later:

Tamoxifen costs about 40 to 60 cents per 10 mg pill, depending on where you buy it. Some web sites require a prescription, but the cheapest don't. Check their reputation before spending money. Typical, $40 for 100 pills, $29 for 60 pills.

These are not "reverse viagra" pills. They don't have any effect on your ability to get an erection, they don't keep you from getting an erection and having sex, and they don't keep you from getting a woman pregnant. Instead, they do exactly what you asked for; they "
TheWannabe (imported) wrote: Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:22 pm simply make you lose interest in sex.
" They affect your desires, not your abilities.

One interesting side effect; Tamoxifen slightly increases your testosterone level.

You said that "
TheWannabe (imported) wrote: Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:22 pm I think I'm 50% submissive and 50% dominant.
" That kind of partner is hard to find, but if you do find her some day I thing that it will take care of a lot of your problems. Do you want both submissive and dominant the same evening, or do you want them on different days? If you are willing to just enjoy oral sex for a while without intercourse, you can be dominant when you bring her to orgasm, and she can be dominant when she returns the favor. If you didn't like what she did when she was dominant, take your turn again; as long as only the one whose turrn it is to be dominant can decide to stop, it won't take you long to both learn to play fair.

You said "
TheWannabe (imported) wrote: Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:22 pm I simply have been searching for a beautiful, sweet, cute, and intelligent girl.
" Beautiful is often a poor choice. Either she thinks too much of herself or whe knows she can find someone better than you. There is less competition for intelligent girls, and they have more imagination in bed. Furthermore, intelligence lasts, beauty doesn't. I'm not sure that sweet goes with 50 submissive and 50% dominant. "Sweet" girls tend to be submissive. If cute is important to you, you ought to be able to find that. In short, there's nothing wrong with knowing what you want, but be sure that you haven't excluded 100% of the female population. I strongly suggest that you have done that and there may have been nothing wrong with the way you looked for a girl friend, just none to find.

Do you have any female friends--just friends, not girl friends? If you have one that you are sure you can trust, you might think about talking to her after Tamoxifen has made it possible for you to talk to her about sexual things while making it clear to her that you've lost your libido and won't be making a pass at her. Sometimes, a female friend who you trust and who trusts you can be a great help. She doesn't have to be your own age, although I met my closest female friend when we were both in grade school.

I hope that you have found at least some of this useful.
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The Old Man: You have no idea how badly I would like to have or have had a girl friend (as in just a buddy). It's always been a dream of mine. Never happened.

And the thing about 50/50 sub/dom is absolutely not some sort of requirement. I would GLADLY accept a 100% submissive or 100% dominant girlfriend. But it's not happening.

I draw the line where I don't feel attracted to a girl. Maybe I'm being picky, but what the hell? I can't be together with a girl who I am not attracted to, can I? Many girls actually turn me off just by their terrible looks.

It should be noted that I have tried hitting on those as well. No luck.
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TheWannabe (imported) wrote: Sun Mar 25, 2007 4:40 pm The Old Man: You have no idea how badly I would like to have or have had a girl friend (as in just a buddy). It's always been a dream of mine. Never happened.

And the thing about 50/50 sub/dom is absolutely not some sort of requirement. I would GLADLY accept a 100% submissive or 100% dominant girlfriend. But it's not happening.

I draw the line where I don't feel attracted to a girl. Maybe I'm being picky, but what the hell? I can't be together with a girl who I am not attracted to, can I? Many girls actually turn me off just by their terrible looks.

It should be noted that I have tried hitting on those as well. No luck.

It is amazing how one's tastes and interests broaden with age! More and more people are attractive at a wider range of ages, races, weights, etc. You will eventually mellow your "pickiness" - I certainly did. I actually started to like real people and not expect Adonis and perfection of character and personality....
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Chemical castration as a test run is definitely a must.
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kristoff wrote: Sun Mar 25, 2007 5:04 pm It is amazing how one's tastes and interests broaden with age! More and more people are attractive at a wider range of ages, races, weights, etc. You will eventually mellow your "pickiness" - I certainly did. I actually started to like real people and not expect Adonis and perfection of character and personality....

But isn't it (at your age) more an effect of castration rather than age? I have noted that other eunuchs feel that they are more able to get attracted to people without them being particularly "sexy" or even handsome. Once the sex drive and the emotional impact of testosterone subside, personality traits and fellow interests seem to become much more important than looks.
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IbPervert (imported) wrote: Sat Mar 24, 2007 5:00 pm I believe that the root of most sex problems is religion, and its thoughts on how to control people! Life will be easier when you fully realize that God loves you period no matter if your good or bad. Also the feelings of Guilt is the difference between a good person and a bad person. Feeling guilty about masturbating and splashing semen all over the place is your parents talking! Its your priest, pastor, or rabbi talking. Its the world telling you "THIS IS HOW YOU SHOULD FEEL!" True feelings of guilt are things like stealing from the store. God sent you hear to learn and experience then report back.

One last thing, If you want to get rid of the nuts wrap them in hamburger then call in a pit bull!

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:D

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U not B pervert.

U B WISE......but chopped steak works better than hamburger... large wild cats like tigers & such work better than pit bulls... ;)
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TheWannabe (imported) wrote: Sun Mar 25, 2007 4:40 pm The Old Man: You have no idea how badly I would like to have or have had a girl friend (as in just a buddy). It's always been a dream of mine. Never happened.

And the thing about 50/50 sub/dom is absolutely not some sort of requirement. I would GLADLY accept a 100% submissive or 100% dominant girlfriend. But it's not happening.

I draw the line where I don't feel attracted to a girl. Maybe I'm being picky, but what the hell? I can't be together with a girl who I am not attracted to, can I? Many girls actually turn me off just by their terrible looks.

It should be noted that I have tried hitting on those as well. No luck.

Get rid of your libido as I suggested, so you won't be confused by lust. Then try talking to women, not as sex objects, but as people. You think men have it hard. Think about the women your age. They have poorer judgement about picking a man than thirteen year old girls do, as you can easily see if you look at who they date.

I suspect that part of your problem is that you haven't had enough female friends in your life. I have been blessed with two long-term (25-50 years) female friends who are much closer than any of my male friends. Don't forget that you need to be a good listener, not just ask questions, and listening isn't always easy. Hearing a friend describe being raped isn't easy. Neither is hearing about what has caused a divorce.

Note that close friends of the opposite sex are usually harder to find than girl friends or wives. I might have been able to turn either relationship into a sexual one, but I considered both far more valuable as friends than they would have been as lovers.

Another warning. Others are right to say that things will get easier for you, but you can't wait forever. Men rarely make new friends after age 35, and finding a new wife during in your fourties doesn't usually work out as well as hoped.
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Eunuchist (imported) wrote: Mon Mar 26, 2007 2:37 am But isn't it (at your age) more an effect of castration rather than age? I have noted that other eunuchs feel that they are more able to get attracted to people without them being particularly "sexy" or even handsome. Once the sex drive and the emotional impact of testosterone subside, personality traits and fellow interests seem to become much more important than looks.

I restored your post E, because I thought that it was a valid question that merited an answer.

I think that in my case I notice many things that are sexy and sexual despite a Very low Testosterone level. I know a few others in the same boat for other reasons... who seem to have the same experience (I am an eunuch, they are not except for 'practical' experience). I would think that, at least for me, age was the more exacting consideration: growing up, challenge from without, as well as within, the realization that people matter and that 99.9% of them are not Adonis (or Venus, or whatever). Looks ARE important (at least to me, Initially) - anyone can paint a great picture, but it takes an "attractive" one (whatever that may involve) to draw my attention, and a "great" one to keep it. At least to me, Testosterone actually plays a minimal role; its biggest role (or lack) is simply a flacid penis.
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First go back and read Paolo's post again, he is right on the money.

At 21 yrs of age, it may seem like you have been alone for ever, trust me you will have different feelings when you hit 25. You are a young man, take your time on this, its not fantasy, its very real and so are the side effects. You have your whole life ahead of you, don't do something you will regret in a couple years.

River

OH, and there is someone for everybody, you just need to look.
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