In regards to what dev and sapient were saying about a woman wanting a REAL man with all his parts. I don't believe that to be totally true, just generally true.

There is a whole new world out there these days and the old social norms have changed some. There was a day once when you never seen a woman sporting a tattoo or piercing. They are all over the place now.

I think first we should clarify what we mean by "fantasy."

There is "fantasy" in an exclusively sexual context, meaning that you are sexually aroused by the idea of being castrated or being a eunuch or that you are otherwise sexually interested in the idea of becoming a eunuch or the effects it produces.

There is "fantasy" in a general sense, meaning that castration is something that is not reality but something that you dream about becoming reality (without sexual arousal) or you actually want to become reality.

Even if the fantasies are sexually related, I have never believed that fantasy is an absolute contraindication to actually becoming castrated. For some they have the fantasy for a reason - turning it into reality would actually make them happy.

For most with these fantasies, they are only that. Most at the EA are never going to follow through with castration (or whatever procedure interests them), and that is fine. Most would also be able to see that true castration is not what they desire if they really take the time to think about it.

But there are those for whom the fantasy becomes stronger, even when it is sexually motivated. Some of these will develop a true desire to be castrated, a few of these will actually go through with it.

The only thing that potential eunuchs who have sexual fantasies about becoming a eunuch need to know is that once castrated, the libido and the enjoyment of the fantasy that comes with it will be no more. If they can fully understand that there will no longer be any sexual enjoyment of the idea of being a eunuch once it actually happens and are willing to accept that consequence as well as the others, then I have no problem with it.

In my own case I was never aroused to the actual act of castration. I tried masturbating to it with no success. When I was in Kimmel's office my penis was 100% flaccid. There was no erection, no orgasm, and no sexual excitement over what I was doing.

No arousal to the procedure, but I will not deny that prior to my surgery there may have been some sexual elements to the idea of being without a libido. When I lost the libido I saw how different the reality was from the fantasy. I no longer had any sexual motivation to enjoy my new state. Nonetheless, I was still quite happy and content with it. The few times I have tried to bring a libido back since my surgery, I always end up unhappy and going back to being without again. So in some cases those who have sexual elements to their castration fantasy may actually enjoy it even without the libido. But one in this position should be extremely cautious because so many more have ended up deeply regretting it.

I would have to say that regretting not doing something can often be a much worse regret than regretting doing something. Those who really want castration and never do it may find themselves much more miserable than those who did not want it and do. But everyone is different, and everyone must answer for themselves and to themselves what it is they really want.

I don't have that much of a sex drive anyway. When I do, I could easily do without having any libido at all. People spend an awful amount of time thinking about sex and sometimes how to get it.

One more urge just like smoking, I can do without it.

My fantasy is now becoming reality - no regrets here. I have wanted this for so long that it is only relief that I feel.

I've still got my balls, but they don't make T any more - or at least not very much of it. My prostate must be shrinking - I can pee properly again. Hurrah! I still enjoy sex but it is no longer a priority one item. Hurrah again!

I think it all depends on your viewpoint and frame of mind. If it is a fantasy that takes over (obsession) and makes you actually do it, there will certainly be regrets afterwards. Deliberate planning and moving towards a goal is much more rewarding than a sucumbing to a sudden (possibly drunken) urge.

I enjoy reading the posts here concerning the castration fantasy and if it might eventually lead to reality. Not on much, so have fun catching up on comments.

In my case while the castration thought has always been there my fantasy changes from time to time as time marches onward! Ha.

My opinion is that each and all are uniquely different and it takes just as many personal fantasy thoughts to trip the trigger to an orgasm or obsession which might lead to reality.

Fantasy of late: Castration with a smile.

My wife has finally agreed to let me bring home another man about 10 years her junior. He is aquainted with her rather casually, is a rancher and owns a meat packing business, also known as a ladies man. Seems he pleases the ladies to such an extent he meets new women by recommendation, one doctor even paid him handsomely for his service to his wife.

For many years my wife and I would occasionally discuss my desire to watch her with another man but in all that time she refused. Well mostly refused. She said she could do it but if she did it would change our relationship. She would still love me but sex would not be the same.

So after some years now she is agreeable for me to bring the rancher man to our home for dinner. When I mentioned his name, she replied: yes I have heard some of the women discuss him at my hair dressers. They all say he is a nice man and fun to be with.

She told me to understand that if she did what I wanted that she would share with him my shared secret desire to be castrated and that she would do so in front of me. She told me if I could handle that, then okay. I had asked her if she would like to castrate me during our love making. She said yes she would like to remove them, but did not want to go to jail. :>) She then would take my balls in her hand and squeeze until I nearly begged her to stop, saying if I castrate you, it will hurt much more than this.

She told me if she goes to bed with him she will probably want to continue a relationship based on the rumors she has heard. So be prepared she said to have your sex life change. He just might be the man to arrange to have you castrated.

She smiled, you better get all the pussy you can between now and when we have dinner, you horny old fart, because things will change.

..end...

So you see my fantasy remains, some changed. Will it lead to reality? Most likely not. If it did, then what? Well, I guess no nuts on papa. Hot will be cooled!! Ha, ha.

Thoughts that sexually arouse should not be confused as being a fantasy.

A fantasy is something you wish would or could happen, but you know that it is not possible and therefore will not happen. Like flying above the earth through the clouds with your arms out before you and a cape fluttering above your back. You can have a fantasy before, during, after sex, or completely unrelated to sexual activity.

Different than a fantasy is a craving, obsession, desire, need to be of a different gender, or to be rid of testosterone, and this is possible to achieve.

Thoughts of something happening, that is possible to happen, is something entirely different. Closely related to imagining.

Being sexually aroused over the thought of being castrated is nothing more than erotic stimulation. People get erotically stimulated by all kinds of thoughts. Many of those thoughts are actually possible to achieve, but would be illegal, unhealthy, or deadly if achieved.

Being under the influence of alcohol or drugs could possibly cause one to loose the ability or rational thought and self control and they might then do something that would be illegal, or be harmful or deadly to perhaps you , or you to yourself.

So imagining, with or without the presence or another person(s), that you are being castrated is just another form of sexual erotic thought. If you or other participants allow those imaginings go too far, as has happened to a few, you will either live to regret it, or no longer be among the living.

Cheers to whatever kinky thoughts turn you on, just stay in control so you know when to stop. When your safety is in the hands of another, you are at great risk.

nullorchis (imported) wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2011 3:34 am A fantasy is something you wish would or could happen, but you know that it is not possible and therefore will not happen.

Think about it. Isn't a fantasy a dream? Doesn't our daily reality emmanate from someone's dream / fantasy? Look at what NASA has done. Once an unachievable fantasy...

As it stands now, I take suppliments to maintain some sort of interest in sex. If I decide to get off the suppliments and quit my current lifestyle, I would hope to make my fantasy of being dickless a reality

"Thoughts become things" is what they say in the movie "The Secret" (http://www.thesecret.tv/). What we focus on, our thoughts and emotions, create our reality. Charged with sexual energy, these thoughts gain an almost invincible power to manifest.

So don't think that strong, vivid visualisations in sexual fantasies are only childplay. They have a huge impact on your subconscious and consequently on your life. The more often you repeat them, the stronger they become - until you finally lose your distance and allow them to become your reality.