I shave head to toes (literally), every day --- except for eyebrows (which seems to freak out people) and parts of back (I can actually reach most of my back).

Lots of advantages --- smooth look, smooth feel, cooler --- but strongest motivator is the symbolic emasculation. I'm small-hung, built like a boy, and I should be smooth like a boy.

I don't have any problems with rashes, ingrowns, cuts, etc. My technique is an unscented shaving gel and new disposable razor every morning in the shower. It requires about 15 minutes, and is a high point of my day.

Now I'm interested in permanent removal, both to eliminate the time and expense of daily shaving and, more importantly, to make the emasculation irreversible.

Without presuming to offer advice, I can say that friends who've tried pubic shaving and complained and quit might have had more satisfying results with perserverence. Sure, I had problems for the first month or so, but with daily shaving the skin adapted --- no problems.

Good luck to all.

Since I started this thread, I guess I should comment about the posts. The prepubescent look is definitely what it is all about. Perhaps this would also explain some of our castration desires, i.e. a return to the innocence of childhood.

Are there any psychologists out there who care to comment?

Yes, I think there is something in that ... pre-pubescent. I'm built like boy, and never progressed sexually beyond the eroticism of a boy, and that's where I would seek to be returned.

Yet I note that mine is not the only motivation, nor likely the most popular. Permanent removal of pubic hair by women (gay and non-gay, as far as I can tell) is extremely popular, but I don't sense that the motivation is similar to mine ... please, someone elaborate, if you are more knowledgeable.

As for men, I think pubic hair shaving / remobal is rare for non-gay men and less rare, but still uncommon, for gay men (source: informal shower-room observation). I don't know the motivation for either.

Concerning size, what I've seen (source: above) is that shaved men are usually small-hung, like me. However, my motivation is not to make the package look larger, but rather to fully expose how small it is.

gay2neuter (imported) wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:19 pm Concerning size, what I've seen (source: above) is that shaved men are usually small-hung, like me. However, my motivation is not to make the package look larger, but rather to fully expose how small it is.

An interesting and very astute observation. While I don't have a broad knowledge of shaved males, I'd have to agree that a majority of those I have seen, tend to have small packages. In one case, the man's wife was shaved and she prefered him to be that way too.

My first experience with shaved pubes was at age 13 or so. I didn't have any pubic hair, but my friend did, and one day he told me that he had shaved it off by way of experiment. Several years later at 15, I shaved mine for the first time. I did it after the end of the school year since I didn't want to get any stares in the high school gym locker room.

Right now, I am at full bush, but I am thinking about shaving again. Usually I shave in summer and let things grow back over the winter. However, in Japan nobody shaves, so when I travelled over there recently, I was careful to let my hair grow out beforehand. That way I wouldn't attract as many stares or strange comments in the public baths. I did hear a remark or two along the lines of, "The foreigner has blonde pubic hair."

I like the feel of shaved balls, but my wife prefers them hairy. However, on the occasion when she shaves me, she usually does the works - balls and all.

gay2neuter (imported) wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:19 pm As for men, I think pubic hair shaving / remobal is rare for non-gay men and less rare, but still uncommon, for gay men (source: informal shower-room observation). I don't know the motivation for either.

I don't think its uncommon. I know that I'm not the only one who's is shaving. And many straight man are shaving. It has become popular along the young straight men. I'm thinking in Germany pubic shaving has become as normal as not shaving.

Of course you'll find much more shaved women if you are going to a sauna, but shaved men will be there too. Not as much as you'll find shaved women, but you'll find some.

gay2neuter (imported) wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:19 pm Concerning size, what I've seen (source: above) is that shaved men are usually small-hung, like me. However, my motivation is not to make the package look larger, but rather to fully expose how small it is.

I'm shaving because I've a very havy hair growth. And of course I like to be shaved.

Body shaving is very popular today and pubic shaving too.

It's quite curious that when I was in my early 20's that opening the top buttons of my shirt to reveal body hair was sexyish for me. In the 70's mens body hirsute body hair was considered very sexual.

As I became older and I guess as I saw more images of smooth men, the attraction grew more and more. Off came all the body hair for good and my pubic hair has either been trimmed or shaved off. Smoothness is far more beautiful.

If there was a difference of opinion between Gay men about shaving and Straight men I think the balance is about even today. For virile men shaving is a turn on for a number of reasons.

1) It feels and looks good.

2) One can feel contact between your Denims or briefs directly against your skin which is pleasant.

3) Sometimes on a warm day a draught of air will rise up your shorts or trousers and tickle your pubic area; this can be quite delicious.

4) Virile Guys 'equipment' feels bigger and is more easily aroused by the contact with clothes etc... It's a turn on.

Many of these reasons apply to Eunuchs and small built guys too. Certainly there is a mental connection between wanting your "switched off" penis

to appear in harmony with the way you feel and the removal of pubic hair

is a major + in completing that look; so, for some Guys there is an emasculatory element I think. However I reckon that as many Guys do shave to enhance their sexual awareness as there are men choosing not to connect

along those lines. Body shaving including armpits is popular too because in summer it can communicate the same kind of sexual message today that having a hairy shirt opening had 30 years ago. If a man has smooth pits, then the onlooker may well choose to reflect just how much more is smooth too:)

I imagine that for the youngest sexual men body hair is still seen as a sign of their arrival at manhood and so I would imagine that they retain their bushes

until they've had a few years to think and then start trimming/ shaving away at them.

I don't see Circumcision and Castration as being directly relevant. Either one got circed as an infant, or you didn't although possibly with Adult circumcision

the combination of shaving away the pubic bush adds to appearance "down there". The thought processes that men go through before they reflect and consider Chemical or full castration, or equally validly any other modification,

such as penectomy are far removed from an interest in using scissors to trim,

or a Shaving Can to shave. An interest in shaving is equally appreciated, or not, among all men. Generalisation is always an unsafe territory to enter but I am enjoying the thread very much; it's very welcome indeed.

I am 41, castrated and take testosterone, before my castration i was extremely hairy,( a thick mat )all over ny body, not alas including my head, that went when I was 22. I am still hairy since I take testosterone, but I have shave my scrotum and my cock and clip around my cock, I have to shave, not because I want to look pre-pubesant, and in my case that would never be achiveable as I would be in the bathroom for hours.

I actually shave because my body hair, grows down my shaft, not just a few hairs, but left to its own devises it grows thickly and all the way up my shaft, like wise my public hair, is thick and black, and I shave my scrotum cause I dont see the point of having a hairy flat scrotum>I am not particularily well hung, and it does enchance it.

I am desparate to have a circumcision, but getting one in the UK, is depedant upon you having Phomosis, as my foreskin retarcts, I have been told I will never recieve a circumcision on the National Heath( bugger)

As you probably know many athletes shave hair from their legs or body for several reasons. Swim team guys shave off body hair to give them more speed in the water for racing. I have tried pubic shaving a couple of times but found that the hair is there for a purpose. During hot weather while working in really hot dry dusty conditions I would get terrible heat rash in the shaved area. The hair served as a cushion to prevent chafing in that area and help the sweat run off, acting as a cooler when it evaporates. Also it is very itchy when it grows back!

ukeunuch I do hope that I have some useful news for you. I don't want to wander off subject but circumcision is in the thread title. I noticed a posting placed in the Google group alt.circumcision on Friday 15th September by a UK guy who was experiencing the same lack of support that you have.

However he managed to get the circumcision he wanted for £500 and fairly

speedily too. He has quoted a website http://www.circumcision-agency.com/index.html.

I know nothing about this agency, you'll have to convince yourself about it, but I pass the information on merely as a link that recently crossed my screen.

I have no association with this group and neither is this a recommendation either; you're on your own on it.

Should this posting be regarded as inappropriate, I've no doubt it won't make the site, but it appears that maybe the NHS could do with updating their information and support for adults seeking to make an adult choice.

Sac_mec (imported) wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2006 5:35 am ukeunuch I do hope that I have some useful news for you. I don't want to wander off subject but circumcision is in the thread title. I noticed a posting placed in the Google group alt.circumcision on Friday 15th September by a UK guy who was experiencing the same lack of support that you have.

However he managed to get the circumcision he wanted for £500 and fairly

speedily too. He has quoted a website http://www.circumcision-agency.com/index.html.

I know nothing about this agency, you'll have to convince yourself about it, but I pass the information on merely as a link that recently crossed my screen.

I have no association with this group and neither is this a recommendation either; you're on your own on it.

Should this posting be regarded as inappropriate, I've no doubt it won't make the site, but it appears that maybe the NHS could do with updating their information and support for adults seeking to make an adult choice.

Interstingly is has been for the past sixty years here in the U.S. the almost universal practice to circumcise male babies, the rationale being that unless a foreskin is kept clean there can be a risk of skin cancer. I was automatically circumcised at birth 58 years ago. I might add that with a newborn the operation is painless and quickly heals, while I understand that for an adult recovery is not painless. Best of luck.