Given the nature, and severity of what was done to me, from age 4 till my teens, I shall not say what I would like done to that piece of walking excrement! It would be too Bloody even for the archive. All natural, organic, and short of planting inputs into his brain, then running pain stimulating signals in, then stopping them while he knows they will return.

Then restarting them for a short intervals, and stopping them ad infinitum! All the while he is fed, and emptied by Catheters, etc, so he will live longer then the average .

In my opinion yes the doctor should be sued, barred, and nullified. There was no logical reason for doing this to the child. If there was both male and female organs (the full works) then this may become more of a medical problem. Many babies cannot live with both forces waging war against who will win. A natural no win war where doctors/parents must decide and fix.

Statistically 50%-50% ratio of males and females look good on paper but not in reality. The last I heard there is still a 3 to 1 ratio of more females than males.

As far as neutral gendar goes I wish an operation type procedure was invented that would cover under skin ones gender (sexual organs) untill later in life. Then as an adult one can decide to be neutral (nullification) or be male /female.

Been there myself to some extent (and that's why I ended up here). There's a brief description in my FAQ at BMEworld .com - link below.

I'd recommend dropping by ISNA.org (http://isna.org/) for more info on this sort of thing - it is, and has been for many years, the standard of handling "intersex" conditions, and what the doctor did is, sadly, the "recommended" and "standard" treatment ...

Don't get me started, OK?

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I see the "image" function is off in here. *sigh* Oh, well.

Tomas (imported) wrote: Tue Jul 01, 2003 1:38 am I see the "image" function is off in here. *sigh* Oh, well.

Tomas,

Image function is on. Did you inclose your url in the img..../img with []...[] function?

Tomas,

Mac (imported) wrote: Tue Jul 01, 2003 1:49 am Image function is on. Did you inclose your url in the img..../img with []...[] function?

This is the same image I've been using, and yes I speak UBB, vB, IAM, HTML, and several other dialects ... I really do suspect that the box at the bottom of this forum agrees with me:

HTML code is Off

vB code is On

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No big deal, just an oddity that doesn't make sense to me.

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petersjc (imported) wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2002 4:19 pm ) advocates leaving the child with the hand that nature dealt (i.e, no medically unnecessary surgery), until s/he is able to decide whether to resolve the ambiguity or continue to live as an intersexual. (The old term, hermaphrodite, seems to have gone out of fashion.)

peter

I've watched several programs in this series and non of the people with re-assigned genders seem to be happy with outcome. The surgeons seem to think an imperfectly formed male or someone of ambiguous sex should be made surgically into a female. Most are still imperfect and would rather have not been surgically altered.

In the little boys case, his mother was a nurse and she signed the consent form for no more than a biopsy. She was somewhat suspicious of the doc to start with. She'll probably have a piece of his hiney and I hope his license.

What she needs is the bastard's fucking scrotum in a jar.

It would make a nice story for the kid to grow up find the bastard tie him up and ritually castrate him and then send a copy of the video to the entire Medical Staff at the hospital.

Probably the administrator of the hospital along with all who participated in the surgery would be good candidates for this treatment, also...

After all, a little vindictiveness goes a long way, especially when it is soooo well deserved...

BTW, has anyone heard form Limpone recently?

A-1

A-1 (imported) wrote: Tue Jul 01, 2003 10:26 pm What she needs is the bastard's fucking scrotum in a jar......

.....After all, a little vindictiveness goes a long way, especially when it is soooo well deserved...

Amen, Brother!

BTW, has anyone heard form Limpone recently?

I was wondering the same thing.

If you trace back the origins of the idea that a child with ambiguous genitalia, has to be surgically altered to look like one sex or the other; it turns out that the surgery is done, not to provide the person with some biogically satisfactory internal identity, but, rather, to provide him with an external appearance which conforms to social expectations.

In other words, these persons are surgically altered, not because their physical characteristics will cause health poblems for themselves, but because society insists that every individual be either definably male or definably female.

The real problem is not in the sex organs of people with ambiguous genitals, or even in the callous and arguably criminal acts of physicians who mutilate them. The real problem is in the nature of a society which provides no standing to intersex persons, and which causes doctors to think they have to "correct" everything that appears to be a deviation from the perceived norm.