In a recent Sunday newspaper, a supplement has an article entitled Unholy Rulers which describes a number of leaders who misbehaved. Among them is Pope John XII, 955 - 964, described as a "Monster of vice", and alleged to have castrated several rebellious cardinals. He was killed by the husband of a woman he had raped.

One must always remember that prostitution is not the worlds oldest profession.Relegion is.At least dealing with a prostitute one knows what he or she is getting and when done it is over.We always worshipped something,what ever it was called and things have not improved any.and probably will not as long as people are stupid enough to keep giving money to them.I just got through comparing FGM to catholic castratos,and do not understand that either.

Because priests and popes are simulacra of Jesus, they must be as he was an intact male; apparently, thanks to St. Paul, circumcision is not required. Handel's Oratorio La Resurrezione was first performed before the Pope on Easter Sunday with soprano Margarita Durastante in the role of Mary Magdalene. The Pope was horrified and in subsequent performances the role was performed by a castrato in drag; Angelo (who by far has the best role, even better than Giovanni's) was always done by a castrato until modern times when females take over the role.

gareth19 (imported) wrote: Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:57 pm Because priests and popes are simulacra of Jesus, they must be as he was an intact male; apparently, thanks to St. Paul, circumcision is not required. Handel's Oratorio La Resurrezione was first performed before the Pope on Easter Sunday with soprano Margarita Durastante in the role of Mary Magdalene. The Pope was horrified and in subsequent performances the role was performed by a castrato in drag; Angelo (who by far has the best role, even better than Giovanni's) was always done by a castrato until modern times when females take over the role.

Did Jesus had to be an intact male. I don't see why. If he didn't need to be an intact male, being a simulacra of Jesus means that they don't need to be intact males. After any prophet died, idiots started making rules and writing books. They destroyed the message and set the world to war.

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ps Jesus lived 2000 years ago, maybe any pope or priest should go there, that is how you are counting

augman7518 (imported) wrote: Sun Apr 12, 2009 4:53 pm One must always remember that prostitution is not the worlds oldest profession.Relegion is.At least dealing with a prostitute one knows what he or she is getting and when done it is over.We always worshipped something,what ever it was called and things have not improved any.and probably will not as long as people are stupid enough to keep giving money to them.I just got through comparing FGM to catholic castratos,and do not understand that either.

I donno, is this the oldest thread you could find. At least you seem to be a professional.

As A-1 said

A-1 (imported) wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:13 pm Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxi culpa...

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A-1 (imported) wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:13 pm Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxi

ma culpa !!

I am sorry, I didn't do it, but yes, I am guilty,.......AMEN

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augman7518 (imported) wrote: Sun Apr 12, 2009 4:53 pm One must always remember that prostitution is not the worlds oldest profession.Relegion is.At least dealing with a prostitute one knows what he or she is getting and when done it is over.We always worshipped something,what ever it was called and things have not improved any.and probably will not as long as people are stupid enough to keep giving money to them.I just got through comparing FGM to catholic castratos,and do not understand that either.

And then you have politics, which is just as old and concvulted as religion. "Years ago when men hit sticks on the ground and cursed they where called religious leaders. Now they are called golfers."

The medieval legend of the "popess Joan" (and the relate legend about the inspection of the "holy bag") is well-known among historians. I read a good essay about this myth some year ago: "La papesse Jeanne", by Alain Boureau, also translated in italian with the same title, and I put this book in the list of readings for my class of medieval history, as example for a very well done research about the genesis and diffusion of a legend in the Middle Age.

So, just who is doing the checking? I can't imagine candidates for Cardinal or Pope going through a medical exam to see that they have all their parts. And if there is checking, just who gets that job? And once the task is done, are they done away with? Dead men tell no lies, or truths.

Lovey (imported) wrote: Fri Dec 28, 2001 12:44 pm Someone told me long ago, that the Catholic church checks to see if you have BOTH testicles if you want to become a pope.

Sorry eunuchs. Apparently, at one time, a woman nearly got away with being a pope.

For a religion that supposedly teaches being meek and mild, turning the other cheek, and being basically a woos, why would the leaders need balls? It would seem that if all the males in the RC, from Pope to altar boys to those sitting in the pews were castrated, they would become more likely to live the kind of lives they promote, taking away the source of all that aggression. Ah well, I gave up trying to understand religions and other forms of irrationality and insanity a long time ago.

Actually, I had once took some training to become a priest. And I know for a fact that a person who is not fully equipped is if they are not elligible is at least certainly frowned upon to becoming a priest. When certain members of the boys choir aren't quite transitioning into the men's choir then they are not recommended for the priesthood. This is the way it was a third of a century ago and I'm not quite sure how it is now. I have since moved on with my life. I do not see things in the same light that I did back then. On the one hand the church does indeed have a tremendous wealth of culture and knowledge in it which no other church has. However as in any other religion their rank and file prefers to remain ignorant and to just go through the motions. One thing I certainly do not believe in is the doctrine of infallability. I have extensively studied the bible also and know that pretty much all protestants don't really understand it either and much less so than Catholic theologians. Actually the Jews are the ones to got for most of that. They are descended from the Hebrews that wrote that book. Jesus was Jewish afterall. I'm getting off track here but I know that males in any faith who are not completely so are frowned upon.