Re: Testosterone Cypionate
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 6:31 am
It's not that I dislike your posts or have not read them. It's just that I have seen tons of studies showing just the opposite of what your said. Testosterone does boost the immune system but the estrogen it converts to suppresses other parts of it. That's why Deca and Anavar was more successful for treating AIDS because there was no estrogen to suppress certain parts of the immune system. Men with low testosterone levels are widely known to suffer from more illnesses. Once HRT begins, they get better.
Men who get prostate cancer have been shown to have high IGF-1 levels, not high testosterone levels. It is true however that testosterone cypionate is more synthetic than other types and increases IGF-1 levels more. That's the only negative thing there is to be associated with cypionate.
As one well known hormone specialist said, "Male hormones do very slightly increase the risk for certain cancers but don't be alarmed; eating the wrong food increases the risk more than the testosterone does."
There is no significantly strong reason to stay away from cypionate. It's been very widely used by millions of men and these men are all still very healthy. I would be far more concerned about an increase in cholesterol from it than anything else as that's about the only side effect. Some rare people do get too much of an increase in red blood cell count as previously mentioned but that's easily treatable and if you're anemic to begin with, male hormones will cure you of that.
Remember one thing about studies; they can be twisted to say one thing or another. You can find a study showing one thing and then turn around and see the same study showing another. Milk is good, no milk is bad, for example. I have even seen one indicating that low testosterone levels cause cancer.
I wasn't talking about POST-menopausal women. I was talking about young women who use female hormones. It has been shown they have less ovarian activity and also a lower incident of ovarian cancer. Just like young men using male hormones have. An older woman who has very minimum ovarian activity anyway, probably won't see any ovarian suppression from using female hormones and therefore no decreased risk of ovarian cancer. Because estrogen is a rather cancer causing hormone, she may even see an increase in ovarian cancer.
Men who get prostate cancer have been shown to have high IGF-1 levels, not high testosterone levels. It is true however that testosterone cypionate is more synthetic than other types and increases IGF-1 levels more. That's the only negative thing there is to be associated with cypionate.
As one well known hormone specialist said, "Male hormones do very slightly increase the risk for certain cancers but don't be alarmed; eating the wrong food increases the risk more than the testosterone does."
There is no significantly strong reason to stay away from cypionate. It's been very widely used by millions of men and these men are all still very healthy. I would be far more concerned about an increase in cholesterol from it than anything else as that's about the only side effect. Some rare people do get too much of an increase in red blood cell count as previously mentioned but that's easily treatable and if you're anemic to begin with, male hormones will cure you of that.
Remember one thing about studies; they can be twisted to say one thing or another. You can find a study showing one thing and then turn around and see the same study showing another. Milk is good, no milk is bad, for example. I have even seen one indicating that low testosterone levels cause cancer.
Eunuchist (imported) wrote: Fri Aug 19, 2005 1:16 am Postmenopausal women who use estrogen replacement therapy (ERT) for more than 10 years may be have twice the risk of dying from ovarian cancer as their peers who did not take ERT.
I wasn't talking about POST-menopausal women. I was talking about young women who use female hormones. It has been shown they have less ovarian activity and also a lower incident of ovarian cancer. Just like young men using male hormones have. An older woman who has very minimum ovarian activity anyway, probably won't see any ovarian suppression from using female hormones and therefore no decreased risk of ovarian cancer. Because estrogen is a rather cancer causing hormone, she may even see an increase in ovarian cancer.