Thank you!

That's a very useful link.

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I sure wish we had more definitive evidence from scientific studies on whether progesterone influences breast growth. For those of us who are growing breasts now, this is probably the critical time.

Sooooo since I emigrated, I've been a bit naughty with my diet (gotta sample my new local cuisine right?!) and right now I'm the heaviest I've ever been (162lbs). My "comfortable weight" is closer to 125-130lbs, so my diet REALLY starts tomorrow!

One thing I have noticed... and I'm not sure if this is all in my head, but instead of moobs, I seem to have more rounded "breasts" and I seem to have more weight on my thighs and legs (my old 28" jeans are impossible to put on now!)

Could female pattern weight gain happen if I'm at zero T but not (yet) taking estrogen!?

Many different folks have stated in the past that zero "T" effects the way our bodies change. As in with weight gain or loss. Muscle to fat etc. Remember, our bodies produce a small amount of estrogen regardless of whether we are producing testosterone or not.

So out of curiosity, if you normally run between 125-130 what is the height to support that weight? I mean after all, 162lbs doesn't seem to be a LOT of weight unless you're like 4'10" or something. at 5'9'' I average around 140 to 150 and am very comfortable. At 135 I feel out of energy all the time and at 130 I feel absolutely weak throughout the day. I have been as much as 214lbs but didn't look over weight just looked strong.

I'm 5'7". I guess my "comfortable weight" is a bit underweight... but I guess body dysphoria is another one of my issues >.<

Right now I definitely feel/look flabbier in a way and shape that's different to before. I'm just hoping it's not a lot harder to shift it. The sooner I'm back at my comfortable weight, the sooner I can start on estrogen!

Begoneboy (imported) wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 6:56 am Many different folks have stated in the past that zero "T" effects the way our bodies change. As in with weight gain or loss. Muscle to fat etc. Remember, our bodies produce a small amount of estrogen regardless of whether we are producing testosterone or not.

So out of curiosity, if you normally run between 125-130 what is the height to support that weight? I mean after all, 162lbs doesn't seem to be a LOT of weight unless you're like 4'10" or something. at 5'9'' I average around 140 to 150 and am very comfortable. At 135 I feel out of energy all the time and at 130 I feel absolutely weak throughout the day. I have been as much as 214lbs but didn't look over weight just looked strong.

This morning I weighed 179 lbs, down from 225 lbs the day I started Androcur and a peek weight of 242 summer 2017 (I dieted before starting chemical castration). I'm 5'11" and my target is about 150 lbs.

Anyway all this weight loss has involved quite a lot of clothes shopping, and as my current 38" waist jeans are now too big for me I tried on some 36" ones the other day, and noticed that although they fitted round the waist they were too tight round my bum!! Hmm... some changes there I think! Also my moobs are quite round and a little boob like...

As I started oestrogen this morning I think that I may be shopping for my jeans (and god knows what else!) in the ladies section in the not too distant future!

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Zebedeee (imported) wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:34 am Hmm... some changes there I think! Also my moobs are quite round and a little boob like...

As I started oestrogen this morning I think that I may be shopping for my jeans (and god knows what else!) in the ladies section in the not too distant future!

Maybe not a bad thing? If the pants fit, wear them! I think more than a few here shop for clothing across the binary divide, and find it comfortable and practical.

Zebedeee (imported) wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:34 am As I started oestrogen this morning I think that I may be shopping for my jeans (and god knows what else!) in the ladies section in the not too distant future!

Not that shopping in the ladies section isn't loads of fun but, Yeah, it can be an expensive proposition to keep buying clothing that doesn't fit. As such, I found it best to simply get clothing that fits correctly in the first place. And I really didn't find that very well accomplished at your local brick and mortar store. After all, they need to make a profit so only stock what sells to the largest number of customers. And make no mistake, we (as in men with little to no "T" and perhaps a bit much "E") don't exactly have the shapes of the general population. Tops, shirts etc are easy enough to buy cheap at the Walmarts of the world so become disposable. Britches on the other hand can get expensive and when they don't fit our body correctly we tend to have a need to keep purchasing more. I resolved this issue by having jeans and skirts custom made on-line from "makeyourownjeans" Once I get a pair made to my body shape they seem to last until I actually wear them out rather than body changes making them no longer suitable. And to get a pair of jeans that are custom made to my body shape is only around 60.00 bucks. Not forgetting to mention they are far and away better quality clothing. Not that they'll stand up to the occasional battery acid as we do our vehicle and solar system maintenance. But hay, that's part of the adventures of life.

Weight loss update:

Current weight: 152.8 lbs / 69 KG

Target weight: 126 lbs / 57 KG

Hoping I reach my goal in June so I can't start the Estrofem.

I now have surgical castration on the horizon (27th April), as a result of this, I'm starting to ramp down my Androcur. This week I'll be on 75mg daily, then for the two weeks after that, I'll be on 50mg, then finally in 4 weeks time I'll be on 25mg

i guess there's no point taking it once my balls are gone.... so I'm going to have a huge stash of Androcur to get rid off/sell!