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Re: therapies involving chemical castration

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:11 pm
by TopManFL (imported)
cocktamer (imported) wrote: Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:36 pm This sounds like S.F. but might actually happens in the near future, where a micro chipped population is remotely controlled by the internet of everything.... Artificial Intelligence deciding what thoughts you are allowed to think and which not... Bringing tyrany & slavery to a new high...

Hey @cocktamer,

Yes, it was a bit of SciFi. But, this thread is in the fiction idea section.

Implantable chips and sensors are already here. My Dad has a pacemaker. Next to his bed is a wireless receiver. Every night while he sleeps the receiver reads his pacemaker and reports it's status to the computer of the company that made the device. Why? No idea. The doctor said the only readings the doctor uses are the ones they take from the pacemaker every 6 months at his checkup. Yet, my Dad won't turn off the device next to his bed.

There are new blood glucose monitors that are implanted in the abdomen. They read glucose levels every few minutes and can remind patients to take medicine, call emergency services if the patient is having a big problem and download live updates to the doctor.

There is a drug trial going on right now for psychiatric meds to increase compliance. A sensor is implanted in the abdomen just under the skin and can tell what chemicals are in blood. The meds are the same. In the pill is a tracer - an inert substance that can be detected by the sensor. If the sensor doesn't detect the tracer it uses mobile or WiFi to inform the doctor or public health department.

Go into a doctor's office with a suspected case of syphilis and the doctor will order a blood test to see if you have syphilis or not. However, the new protocol is to inject the patient with a huge time released does of bicillian (penicillin) in addition to ordering the blood work. Why? Two reasons. First, not every patient gets the blood draw and comes back for a follow up. Second, although a round of oral antibiotics is equally effective in curing syphilis, health departments know patients will often not take the pills once the symptoms of primary syphilis go away (the symptoms go away - not the disease) leaving the patient able to infect others for decades before secondary or tertiary symptoms appear.

HIV medications can be complicated to take. A new HIV treatment is now approved in the US. It's a once a month injection at the doctor's office or health department. No daily pills. But, more importantly, a patient can be arrested as a health hazard if they don't show up for their monthly shot.

Big Brother tyranny is already here - it's only going to get worse.

Male Chow sold in 25lb bags could happen. So simple to dish out. Each bag of Male Chow has the age of the male on it. So, puberty can be delayed until age 20. Then, a sudden onset of puberty at age 20 and a semen sample is collected every month until a viable sample can be stored. Once the viable sample of sperm is stored at 10 locations around the word, bio diversity is continued and the actual male is of little further value. Male Chow 21 starts the chemical lobotomy and little by slow the male is turned into a labor machine, farm animal, manual laborer or bot. Male Chow 21 to 35 keeps men stupid and chemically castrated. Male Chow 36 is a humane way putting the male down. After all, there's a whole generation of males frozen in those sperm samples.

Re: therapies involving chemical castration

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:53 pm
by cocktamer (imported)
TopManFL (imported) wrote: Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:11 pm Hey @cocktamer,

Yes, it was a bit of SciFi. But, this thread is in the fiction idea section.

Implantable chips and sensors are already here. My Dad has a pacemaker. Next to his bed is a wireless receiver. Every night while he sleeps the receiver reads his pacemaker and reports it's status to the computer of the company that made the device. Why? No idea. The doctor said the only readings the doctor uses are the ones they take from the pacemaker every 6 months at his checkup. Yet, my Dad won't turn off the device next to his bed.

There are new blood glucose monitors that are implanted in the abdomen. They read glucose levels every few minutes and can remind patients to take medicine, call emergency services if the patient is having a big problem and download live updates to the doctor.

There is a drug trial going on right now for psychiatric meds to increase compliance. A sensor is implanted in the abdomen just under the skin and can tell what chemicals are in blood. The meds are the same. In the pill is a tracer - an inert substance that can be detected by the sensor. If the sensor doesn't detect the tracer it uses mobile or WiFi to inform the doctor or public health department.

Go into a doctor's office with a suspected case of syphilis and the doctor will order a blood test to see if you have syphilis or not. However, the new protocol is to inject the patient with a huge time released does of bicillian (penicillin) in addition to ordering the blood work. Why? Two reasons. First, not every patient gets the blood draw and comes back for a follow up. Second, although a round of oral antibiotics is equally effective in curing syphilis, health departments know patients will often not take the pills once the symptoms of primary syphilis go away (the symptoms go away - not the disease) leaving the patient able to infect others for decades before secondary or tertiary symptoms appear.

HIV medications can be complicated to take. A new HIV treatment is now approved in the US. It's a once a month injection at the doctor's office or health department. No daily pills. But, more importantly, a patient can be arrested as a health hazard if they don't show up for their monthly shot.

Big Brother tyranny is already here - it's only going to get worse.

Male Chow sold in 25lb bags could happen. So simple to dish out. Each bag of Male Chow has the age of the male on it. So, puberty can be delayed until age 20. Then, a sudden onset of puberty at age 20 and a semen sample is collected every month until a viable sample can be stored. Once the viable sample of sperm is stored at 10 locations around the word, bio diversity is continued and the actual male is of little further value. Male Chow 21 starts the chemical lobotomy and little by slow the male is turned into a labor machine, farm animal, manual laborer or bot. Male Chow 21 to 35 keeps men stupid and chemically castrated. Male Chow 36 is a humane way putting the male down. After all, there's a whole generation of males frozen in those sperm samples.

There is a lot of truth in what you write: robotics & artificial intelligence will make humans obsolete and most of us will lose our jobs to robots who outperform us... in many respects...making us even more rendundant. That is why DARPA is now developing robots to hunt, & kill humans as a means of "pest control ". This is all part of "agenda 21 " ( google that !) the elite aims at merging us with A.I. so A.I. can use our creativity to made an invincible robot army...

"male chow" as you call it is already here: the additives in food we buy to sedate, dumb down & make docile..; is already part of our lives. As I see it we are the last generation of "ordinary, free (?) humans... if nothing is done we will cease to exist as individuals & will end up as drones in a hive mind...

Re: therapies involving chemical castration

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:02 pm
by fhunter
TopManFL (imported) wrote: Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:11 pm Male Chow sold in 25lb bags could happen. So simple to dish out. Each bag of Male Chow has the age of the male on it. So, puberty can be delayed until age 20. Then, a sudden onset of puberty at age 20 and a semen sample is collected every month until a viable sample can be stored. Once the viable sample of sperm is stored at 10 locations around the word, bio diversity is continued and the actual male is of little further value. Male Chow 21 starts the chemical lobotomy and little by slow the male is turned into a labor machine, farm animal, manual laborer or bot. Male Chow 21 to 35 keeps men stupid and chemically castrated. Male Chow 36 is a humane way putting the male down. After all, there's a whole generation of males frozen in those sperm samples.
Ever watched https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexmission ? Just invent parthenogenesis for humans, and males are obsolete ;-)

Re: therapies involving chemical castration

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:02 am
by cutnbulls2ox (imported)
The entire concept of anti homosexual sex in cultures prevents most males from enjoying unlimited and no strings sex with other males. Most males would eagerly jump at being openly able to have fast and easy sex with other males.

Ancient Greece, Rome, and other openly homosexual friendly cultures must have been a paradise for extra horny men, teens, and boys. Maybe that is why later cultures like Christianity and the muslim religion took up such an antagonistic war on homosexuality and on unbridled male sexuality as part of their central belief positions ? They could hardly be more anti sex, anti male natural desires for lots of sex, and anti homosexual than they have been for thousands of years.

Re: therapies involving chemical castration

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:15 am
by cutnbulls2ox (imported)
fhunter wrote: Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:02 pm Ever watched https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexmission ? Just invent parthenogenesis for humans, and males are obsolete ;-)

Fiction always loves portraying the end of men. But in reality most parents around the globe strongly prefer males as offspring. Females would become obselete compared to stronger, tougher, and more productive and more harmonious males. Male economic output far exceeds female economic output in work ability, especially work requiring muscles and strength.

Re: therapies involving chemical castration

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:51 pm
by cocktamer (imported)
cutnbulls2ox (imported) wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:02 am The entire concept of anti homosexual sex in cultures prevents most males from enjoying unlimited and no strings sex with other males. Most males would eagerly jump at being openly able to have fast and easy sex with other males.

Ancient Greece, Rome, and other openly homosexual friendly cultures must have been a paradise for extra horny men, teens, and boys. Maybe that is why later cultures like Christianity and the muslim religion took up such an antagonistic war on homosexuality and on unbridled male sexuality as part of their central belief positions ? They could hardly be more anti sex, anti male natural desires for lots of sex, and anti homosexual than they have been for thousands of years.

Clamping down on male homosexuality was part of enslaving humanity: heterosex breeding as the only approved way of expressing sexuality ; breeding kids that also did pose a material burden & strain on the energy of the parent's... Slaves breeding more slaves for the system to feed on...For me homosexuality is rebellion against the breeding slavery: do not breed, be free, use your sexual energy to your own advantage.... Let those who want to breed do so, but leave those who do not want to breed equally free to pursue their own life style...I agree that most males are conditioned to fear homosexuality....men are so much more fun that woman, who after they had their litter often lose all interest in sex...; leaving males frustrated... All religion is about mind control & enslavement... & breeding is a big part of it... so...

Re: therapies involving chemical castration

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:44 pm
by fhunter
cutnbulls2ox (imported) wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:15 am Fiction always loves portraying the end of men. But in reality most parents around the globe strongly prefer males as offspring. Females would become obselete compared to stronger, tougher, and more productive and more harmonious males. Male economic output far exceeds female economic output in work ability, especially work requiring muscles and strength.
Parents want them, because most of the societies are patrilocal - son stays in family, daughter is given away. So daugher is 'wasted investment' sort of.

As for the work - there is no real use for muscles in most of work those days. And where it still is - it will be automated/mechanised away for the most part. Nothing wrong with that. Brain wins over muscles most of the time in historical perspective.

For the portraying "the end of men" - they were created biologically expendable. (But I am not saying 'not needed').

As for "far exceeds" - [citation needed].

Re: therapies involving chemical castration

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:02 pm
by Wolf-Pup (imported)
As far as higher education, women are kicking men's asses these days too. So robots aren't the only way men are going to be replaced. What is society going to do with a plethora of men with just high school educations and not decent paying jobs for them? I don't think it involves any kind of conspiracy, and probably doesn't apply to the entire globe, but to the more western countries.

Re: therapies involving chemical castration

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:21 pm
by cocktamer (imported)
fhunter wrote: Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:02 pm Ever watched https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexmission ? Just invent parthenogenesis for humans, and males are obsolete ;-)

That is a good one LOL !

Re: therapies involving chemical castration

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:30 pm
by TopManFL (imported)
cocktamer (imported) wrote: Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:53 pm "male chow" as you call it is already here: the additives in food we buy to sedate, dumb down & make docile..; is already part of our lives. As I see it we are the last generation of "ordinary, free (?) humans... if nothing is done we will cease to exist as individuals & will end up as drones in a hive mind...

Male Chow was introduced slowly. It's first name was "Male Improvement Supplement 2.1" (the 2.1 meant nothing - people just have greater faith in anything that isn't the first try at something. Also software that ends in "point zero" is normally seen as needing a bug fix. Hence, the 2.1)

It was marketed as a supplement for body builders. Oh, not the men at the gym back in the corner with the "real weights", rather to men who just wanted to eat the supplement and have their bodies transform into a muscle stud with perfect square pecs, cut 6 pack abs, 9% body fat, a bubble butt you can bounce a quarter off of and hit the moon and arms like a truck driver.

Needless to say, almost every male willingly started eating the supplement. Sales took off quickly.

Men started to notice that they didn't even need to eat food. The supplement alone was enough to keep them alive. The first reports of men going through withdraws were reported several years later. Those reports were denied by the government. The courts were slow to accept the law suits that followed and by the time men realized they were addicted to the supplement it was too late.

In order to gain 100% control over men, the womyn who had created the supplement abruptly took it off the market. Men were in agony as their bodies craved the addictive substance in Male Improvement Supplement 2.1

That's when Male Chow came on the market. It was first marketed as a "cure" to the "Supplement Addiction Crisis". But to make sure it wasn't abused it needed to be closely monitored.

To make the new Male Chow activate once ingested a male just needed to get a free chip installed. The chip was computer controlled and made sure that the male ate Male Chow only from a bag with the appropriate age on it. Further, if the male refused to eat three meals a day of Male Chow, the anal chip would punish him by creating a pelvic floor muscle spasm. If he continued to refuse, the computer deactivated his ability to ingest the addictive chemical and cravings would be huge. He'd slowly die on television as the world watched.

Most men learned to eat their Chow and stop being a baby about it.

After all, "Male Chow EX" now comes in flavors.

Each bag of Male Chow either delayed puberty, pushed a male through rapid puberty or gave him a chemical lobotomy. I
fhunter wrote: Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:02 pm t just depended on what was needed for the grater good.

Ever watched https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexmission ? Just inve
nt parthenogenesis for humans, and males are obsolete ;-)

fhunter - you don't fool me. You've already invented it and just won't share. <wink> What a wonderful world it would be. I did notic
cutnbulls2ox (imported) wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:15 am e you said obsolete and not extinct. Right? I mean, like males would still be here? Yeah? Oh geez.

Male economic outpu
t far exceeds female economic output in work ability, especially work requiring muscles and strength.

My grandmother used to say that a bad housewife could throw more out the back door than a good man could bring in the front door. Home economics was a serious thing. My granny wasted nothing an
cocktamer (imported) wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:51 pm d saved everything.

I'm pretty sure womyn have always been in charge. They just figure it's easier to be the power behind
the throne when the shit hits the fan.

Let those who want to breed do so, but leave those who do not want to breed equally free to pursue their own life style.

Exactly. I don't mind straight people as long as they act gay in public. Live and let live.