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Zebedeee (imported) wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:31 am Given how difficult it is to get a regular prescription from a GP for anti androgens what do you suggest people do?

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There are two things that may be of help to you. IF you are seeing a Psychiatrist, they are also medical doctors and may be willing to prescribe for you. The problem here is that when you begin to discuss self medication, Doctors all shudder at the possibility that you'll improperly dose yourself. Also, unless you can get a pharmacist to tell you which drugs interact poorly with others, I can only caution caution.

Professional courtesy got me castrated with no questions. The Urological Surgeon who did the operation was a colleague and he did discuss with me my motives and reasons. Everyone has a slightly different reason for taking a specific drug and that will give your GP hiccups. I've had patients in my surgery who wanted XYZ drug for some condition they fondly imagined they had-usually because they'd read an article or seen a program that persuaded them they had it. I would refuse-why would I give them a prescription for Athlete's foot that they'd been told would prevent hair loss? I was called mean, and callous, and not understanding of their problem. They would go elsewhere. But lets say I'd given them what they wanted and they'd dumped it in their hair. When they come back to me, their head wrapped in a towel, and blame me for their own administered problem, they seem to have forgotten why this all occurred. GP's stand as a bulwark between wild eyed patients who have no medical knowledge but know what they want and persons such as yourself who have a provable reason. Do you know how much medicine is obtained from a GP and then handed on to the person who really wants it? The answer is a greater number than you might think.

I agree whole heartedly that some, not all, medicines should be more readily available but only if prescribed by doctors familiar with the medicine, it's uses and side effects. I believe this day is coming but ONLY if we can get government out of the healing arts. Absolutely they should investigate new drugs but...once it's out there, hands off. Just my opinion. Petr-Johan

I do appreciate that GP’s can’t hand out prescriptions on demand, and that if they did they wouldn’t be a very good doctor and would probably cause more problems than they solve.

I think that the situation with psychiatrists may be a little different here in the UK. My own experience and that of others in the UK who I’ve been in touch with, is that they want to hand you over to an endocrinologist who will write the prescription (or at the very least authorise your psychiatrist or GP to do so), and that is where things hit a brick wall. Endocrinologists in the UK just don’t seem to be comfortable with chemical castration for anything other than patients with prostate cancer or those who have committed a serious sex offence. Those wishing to be chemically castrated for other reasons (in my case gender dysphoria), are met with incomprehension and politely told to go away!

I saw my therapist yesterday and we have agreed on a plan to hopefully get my medication properly prescribed. I am going to continue self medicating whilst being closely monitored by my GP and therapist for my physical and mental health. Then all being well after about six months, we will make a case that this treatment works for me and start looking for an endocrinologist who is willing to help.

Even with letters from my therapist there is no guarantee that I will be able to get a prescription, but there is a chance we’ll find someone willing to help.

Unfortunately without being prepared to self medicate to begin with I would probably get nowhere, and it sucks that I have to take the risk.

Once I have a prescription from an endocrinologist my GP can then repeat it indefinitely.

I placed an order for androcur from them yesterday and sent payment through Western Union today. I got several confirmation emails, including an invoice and responses to questions so I'd say their communication is good. You can send follow up messages through an order history. Their web site seems solid and professional, so if it's a scam it's a really good one!

They’re clearly supplying people with a product, which is a promising start. But I think that PetJohan raises a legitimate question. Buying medication online is never ideal (but often our only option), and I think any new businesses which pop up offering great prices need to be treated with a little caution.

I will be very interested to hear how everyone gets on, especially those who have taken Androcur before and know what to expect.

HumanFly (imported) wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:10 pm I now have my Androcur -- they tried to deliver it on Saturday but nobody was in, so I picked it up from the post office this morning. Just popped my first, will start with 50mg/day to begin with and see how it goes. For anyone wondering, it was packaged discreetly with no mention of what was inside on the packet (unlike Inhouse Pharmacy packages).

I received a shipping notice today. Sounds like I'll have my Androcur in a week and a half. How is yours going?

Keep us all posted!

Over the years we have been tempted to buy many medications in China, with mixed results.

The last batch of my wife's thyroxine appeared (from her lab tests) to have little or nothing in it, and the last batch of supposedly genuine Astra Zeneca Betaloc also appeared to do nothing. The real Betaloc should drop the heart rate by at least 10 per minute for us.

Both the packages, complete with trade marks, fancy hologram seals looked genuine.

And we once had testosterone injection from Japan, that clearly contained empty oil, judging from the blood tests.

So, we think that in US, we have the choice between the ridiculously wickedly expensive, and an online "crap-shoot".

Maybe we should pay attention to which particular crap-shoot businesses work out well?

Y'all keep us posted!

daifu-orchid (imported) wrote: Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:18 am Keep us all posted!

Over the years we have been tempted to buy many medications in China, with mixed results.

The last batch of my wife's thyroxine appeared (from her lab tests) to have little or nothing in it, and the last batch of supposedly genuine Astra Zeneca Betaloc also appeared to do nothing. The real Betaloc should drop the heart rate by at least 10 per minute for us.

Both the packages, complete with trade marks, fancy hologram seals looked genuine.

And we once had testosterone injection from Japan, that clearly contained empty oil, judging from the blood tests.

So, we think that in US, we have the choice between the ridiculously wickedly expensive, and an online "crap-shoot".

Maybe we should pay attention to which particular crap-shoot businesses work out well?

Y'all keep us posted!

Will do.

I've received a tracking number from USPS but still listed as only a label created and no confirmation of shipping. Maybe this is how it normally works.

Some news ? Their Androcur is legit ?

norgefluid (imported) wrote: Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:52 am Some news ? Their Androcur is legit ?

I'm not sure, really. There are no obvious signs that it's not legit, but I noticed nothing like the difference other men who have taken this have noticed -- maybe I'm not taking enough, maybe it's the DP I injected a few weeks earlier interfering with it. I took it (one 50mg tablet daily) for a few days then stopped; I might wait a couple of months before trying again. No ill-effects that I could detect.

I guess that the main thing is that you experienced no ill effects.

I was very aware that Androcur was working after just a week, but I think that I responded to it very quickly as others report it taking two or three weeks before they really start to notice a difference.

I have no idea what effect taking it after a DP injection would have. I think it would have to be the only anti androgen you’re taking to find out how effective it is, and get some idea whether it’s legit.