A genital plastic surgeon took my scrotum. No insurance, cash-on-the-barrel. Good job, and under a grand for everything.

CloudCat (imported) wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:23 am Was it easy to get a urologest to remove the scrotum, or did you have to see a plastic surgon? was it covered under inshurance or was it kinda spendy?

Plastic surgeon. Cash only, but the fee was about the same amount I would have co-payed had I had it done by my urologist who would have coded it medically necessary.

I am really happy you guys can get these things resolved. that this forum works so well and is a huge credit to those involved. There is a refreshing level of intelligence and honesty. I am pretty isolated here, at the bottom of the world, and have few resources, medically and communally. So please excuse my enthusiasm. I only hope that I can make friends and that my experience can be of some help to the Eunuch Archive brothers. B

seanthomas (imported) wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:42 am What you describe sounds a lot like transient testicular torsion and is not that uncommon. It is most often caused by a congenital defect known as "Bell Clapper Deformity" wherein the testicles "float" freely within the scrotum much like the clanger in a bell. This leads to either a complete 360 degree twisting, which is excruciatingly painful, or transient twisting where the cords will not fully twist 360 degrees but do so enough to cause less severe pain. However, over many years the occasional pain becomes lessened as nerves are also effected by ischemia and become less sensitive. Bell Clapper Deformity is fairly easy to diagnose by exciting the cremaster muscle in the upper leg and any GP worth his salt would do this test. If caught before irreversible damage is done the condition is remedied surgically by tacking each testicle in place to keep them from twisting. Untreated BCD eventually leads to lack of blood flow causing the testicles to die, often over a period of years.

I know this from personal experience, where BCD went un-diagnosed long enough that I ended up loosing both testicles.

I m another man slowly getting steered with intermittent testicular torsions. Slowly getting castrated by my own balls twisting up. Us unlucky men lack the anchors that usually keep a man s balls from being able to twist and rotate inside our scrotums. The gubernaculum is an anchor of tissue, shaped like a wide fin of a fish that ties each ball to the bottom of the scrotum. The gubernaculum originally pulls every male s balls from deep up in his abdomen, where the balls first form when we are fetuses, down through our inguinal canals, where hernias can pop through later in life, and down into our scrotums where they usually stay anchored in our bags permanently. But some men get detached or disappearing gubernaculums after their balls are pulled down into the scrotum. Then our balls are free floating around in our sacks and can twist like a hanging man from a gallows and blocking off the blood flow to our balls for however long our single ball or more rarely both balls at one time stay twisted on our cords. Men have an inner sack inside our scrotums that surrounds each ball separately. So our balls can t tangle up together or wrap around each other because of walls of skin separating our 2 balls. Each ball strangles on its own twisted up nut cords and tubes that it hangs down from inside our skin divided scrotums.

The bell clapper condition is where our nut cords and the epididmis running up and down the back or top side of each testicle are partially detached from the testicles which allows our balls to rotate and strangle on our own twisted up sperrmatic cords. Normally those keep a ball from rotating and twisting inside the scrotum. Some drs describe it as bare poles, like the north and south poles of the earth on our balls don t have the spermatic cords and epididymis attached at our balls at the back running all the way to cover the north and south poles like they should be. This leaves our balls north and south poles bare of nut cords and exposed. This allows our balls to twist or rotate in our bags.

Our balls can twist and untwist on their own for no reason or from cold or exercise or sexual stimulation. Twisting slows down or can cut off the blood and oxygen supply to the ball that twists up. That progressively damages our balls more and more over time, slowly castrating us. If a ball twists up tight enough to cut off enough blood flow for a long enough time, that testicle dies from it. If the testicle untwists on its own, and soon enough, our balls stay alive, but can be partly damaged by it each time it happens.

The orchiopexy surgery of sewing each testicle with suture threads into the ball itself and then to the sides and bottom of the inner scrotum can save balls from twisting up and dying from it. Every dr I went to had a different way of doing this. But basically under local painkillers or drugged out cold, the dr cuts the scrotum open, pulls the balls out, opens each ball s separate inner bag, exposes both skinned balls, and then sews right into each ball s outer shell then stitches the ball to the inside out scrotum walls. The inner ball bags are sliced open and usually cut out and removed along with other scrotum organs depending on which dr does it. Then your balls and scrotum are turned right side out and sewn closed from the outside. Leaving both balls sewn tight to the scrotum on three sides and below each ball.

The surgery to sew the twisting balls to the inner walls of the scrotum sounds like a solution but it has its own problems.

From the reading and asking drs that I ve done, it seems like that orchiopexy surgery works best on boys with testicular torsions as pre teens and teens. Men in the 20s it usually works. But in fully grown men, and especially men with large testicles manufacturing large amounts of sperm every day, you can have a lot of problems with permanent sutures penetrating into both balls interiors and pulling as the man moves around every day, and also from so much destruction of the inner sacks and organs inside the scrotum from that surgery and skinning off and amputating the inner sacks and other parts of the anatomy inside the scrotum. Grown men are more likely to end up being slowly and irreversably castrated by orchiopexy surgeries than younger men and boys. It avoids the quick ball death of an intense torsion, but at a lasting cost. Dr don t like to mention this at all.

The slow castration men can sometimes experience from orchiopexy surgery is similar to the slow castration a small percentage of men get from vasectomies or from having any other scrotum and testicle surgery or damage to the scrotum and testicles, like from accidental injury or from extreme ball busting. Once it starts, drs can t stop it. You re on the road to becoming a eunuch and there s no way to stop it.

Brycenosak (imported) wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:43 am I am really happy you guys can get these things resolved. that this forum works so well and is a huge credit to those involved. There is a refreshing level of intelligence and honesty. I am pretty isolated here, at the bottom of the world, and have few resources, medically and communally. So please excuse my enthusiasm. I only hope that I can make friends and that my experience can be of some help to the Eunuch Archive brothers. B

Hey, most of us feel the same way. Our friends don t understand our ball troubles and its tough to find other eunuchs or men with ball problems, except online here. It helps to be so open about what most men keep bottled up as a shameful secret or afraid of what people will think of them for talking about it. Comparing our experiences and what works or doesn t work helps all of us manage our own balls and/or bodies better. Plus hearing how other men cope with castration and life with no balls is very helpful.

Thanks cutnbulls2ox, I knew from the epididyectomy, when the surgeon sealed my balls up for good, that was the end of them. They swelled up slightly, got real hard. that was the same until they were removed. I just knew they were fuked!And I had begged him for an open end vasectomy. They still wont do them in NZ! You right, only a few close mates understood what was going on, still do. The rest only knew "back pain or hernia". The macho kiwi male doesnt help Quote,me, I'm getting my balls cut off next week. Mate, Oh well, they only get in the way anyway" I'm so happy to share, for once. I know abit about TRT, based on experience and what is available here. Funny thing is that, unbelievably, cutting off my sad, empty, ballsack, has transitioned me from mourning the loss of my manhood to embracing me, as a eunuch. Its empowering! Its what the doctors would never do. I did it and fully accept I love the look and feel of it. I know it sounds odd, but its the truth. Good nite, 1.17am B

Hi cloudcat, I was castrated over 3 years ago but didn't have the empty scrotum removed until last April. After I'd been nutted I was left with a long thin dangly flap of skin about 4" long. It tended to swing about and looked awful. During the 2+ years I put up with it, it didn't shrink at all, if anything it got longer and thinner. It was a huge improvement when I got it removed, it feels better, looks better and I love having the empty space between my legs. In my opinion there are also good psychological reasons for having the empty ball bag removed; for me it was like saying I'm happy with my castration and I'm not ashamed to be a eunuch. Another consideration for me was that a few months after the nutsac was gone my thoughts turned to nullification. With hindsight I wish my scrotum had been removed at the same time as my testicles but it's done now and I'm very happy with the resulting smooth and clean cut look. I know several castrated tgirls, they all the sac removed along with their balls. Unless you want fake balls I'd always say cut off the scrotum and go smooth.

Justine x

justine77 (imported) wrote: Sun Dec 16, 2018 10:31 am Hi cloudcat, I was castrated over 3 years ago but didn't have the empty scrotum removed until last April. After I'd been nutted I was left with a long thin dangly flap of skin about 4" long. It tended to swing about and looked awful. During the 2+ years I put up with it, it didn't shrink at all, if anything it got longer and thinner. It was a huge improvement when I got it removed, it feels better, looks better and I love having the empty space between my legs. In my opinion there are also good psychological reasons for having the empty ball bag removed; for me it was like saying I'm happy with my castration and I'm not ashamed to be a eunuch. Another consideration for me was that a few months after the nutsac was gone my thoughts turned to nullification. With hindsight I wish my scrotum had been removed at the same time as my testicles but it's done now and I'm very happy with the resulting smooth and clean cut look. I know several castrated tgirls, they all the sac removed along with their balls. Unless you want fake balls I'd always say cut off the scrotum and go smooth.

Justine x

Completely agree! There's not much use for an empty sack. Although in my opinion there's not much use for a penis with no balls either which is of course why I had all mine taken at the same time. Don't know anything about tgirls so can't comment on that one but if it make somebody happy then follow the dream and be happy.

Well said. Merry Xmas!!

Begoneboy (imported) wrote: Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:21 pm Completely agree! There's not much use for an empty sack. Although in my opinion there's not much use for a penis with no balls either which is of course why I had all mine taken at the same time. Don't know anything about tgirls so can't comment on that one but if it make somebody happy then follow the dream and be happy.