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Re: Using science to create a sex-less utopia.

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 4:03 pm
by fhunter
And the same reward circuit can be hijacked in millions other uses - computer games, food, drugs, etc. It is the abuse, that is bad, not what is abused. As anything, porn can have multiple uses, not all of it is bad, and not all of those uses are bad.

And salvation? Are you kidding? Salvation from what or for what?

PS. And Stanislaw Lem once wrote a "Sexplosion", a nice take on what will happen if you take the sex out of the equation. http://lib.uka.ru/lib2/11/LEM/sexplosi_engl.html (not sure if there is official translation, original was in polish, that was the first I found).

Re: Using science to create a sex-less utopia.

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:25 pm
by VicistiGalilaee (imported)
Nestor AEgrotatus (imported) wrote: Mon Aug 18, 2014 2:12 am Why don't we just stop reproducing at all and finally stop condemning people to be born into this nightmarish reality, whether it involves sex or not?

Haha, you might be on to something there!

Re: Using science to create a sex-less utopia.

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:28 pm
by VicistiGalilaee (imported)
C&TL2745 (imported) wrote: Mon Aug 18, 2014 3:58 pm Sadly, your experience is quite common--perhaps too common--but there are women (myself included) who really enjoy sex, even after 23 years of marriage. I feel closest to my hubby emotionally when we're making love, and the orgasms are good, too. While I'll admit that he provides a comfortable life for me and I haven't had to hold down a job outside the home, that was his decision and not the reason I don't seek employment. He has always maintained that it makes him feel good that he can do that. Sorry to hear that your experience with women has been so negative.

Sandi

This is such a foreign experience to me. From the moment I've hit puberty, sexual desire has existed to produce nothing but almost uninterrupted misery when it comes to the opposite sex. Even now, I doubt castration would have its desirable effects, since it is prior to puberty that it produces its ideal effects. I am happy that you enjoy it though. I am currently on antidepressants, which, fortunately, majorly reduces my sex drive to the point where I would be unable to physically function enough to have intercourse. The progesterone I'd taken worked to a degree, but I didn't like its psychological effects.

Re: Using science to create a sex-less utopia.

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 3:27 pm
by VicistiGalilaee (imported)
fhunter wrote: Mon Aug 25, 2014 4:03 pm And the same reward circuit can be hijacked in millions other uses - computer games, food, drugs, etc. It is the abuse, that is bad, not what is abused. As anything, porn can have multiple uses, not all of it is bad, and not all of those uses are bad.

And salvation? Are you kidding? Salvation from what or for what?

PS. And Stanislaw Lem once wrote a "Sexplosion", a nice take on what will happen if you take the sex out of the equation. http://lib.uka.ru/lib2/11/LEM/sexplosi_engl.html (not sure if there is official translation, original was in polish, that was the first I found).

What if something cannot be used without being abused? It is possible to have a sex drive without committing heinous crimes, of course, but think of how much bitterness, resentment, envy, rage, and pointless competitiveness all because some guy or guys wanted the attention or approval of some girl or group of girls, or how nasty women can be towards one another when competing for the attention of men. I seriously wonder if we would ever fight another war as long as the human race persisted if we designed a society without sexual desire.