Seriously

I have asthmatic tendencies and do NOT like humid weather.

I love the rain, and fog when it is clean - not acid or laden with particles.

This is not unique, lungers don't like humidity. Doc Holliday was advised to move his TB west.

How do lungers fare in Bangkok or the tropical rain areas of Hawai'i.

Gracias.

What are you gonna do for "Mexican" in Hawai'i

Make your own tortillas ? Corn or flour?

I know you will grow your own chilies, and possibly beans.

You just may appreciate mainlanders sending you spicy Care Packages? Y'think?

Moi

At the desert by the sea. So dry.

Moi, as much as I love Mexican food, (its what I grew up with) I love tropical fruit and fish just as much so my diet wont change much and maybe for the better.

From what I have found you can find Mexican food just about anywhere even in Hawaii, its like Sushi, its everywhere.

As for beef which is very expensive in Hawaii, we eat so little beef I will not miss it, sense moving to the mid west in 1995 I do miss sea food, fresh fish bought right off the wharf, so that will be something we will look forward to.

My daughter-in-law may be moving there in the near future and she was looking all this stuff up, she said to Patt the same thing, beef is so expensive and fish is cheep, , , , , , I am OK with that because I love fish.

Patt and I have already talked about it and we will be having fish several times a week which suits us just fine because we like fish over all other meats except bacon.

River

The very best to you River, quite an adventure. You should watch all the sea food, as much as I love it, it is very high in cholesterol..... but so good. Mangos....heaven!

Riverwind (imported) wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2014 8:37 am Moi, as much as I love Mexican food, (its what I grew up with) I love tropical fruit and fish just as much so my diet wont change much and maybe for the better.

From what I have found you can find Mexican food just about anywhere even in Hawaii, its like Sushi, its everywhere.

As for beef which is very expensive in Hawaii, we eat so little beef I will not miss it, sense moving to the mid west in 1995 I do miss sea food, fresh fish bought right off the wharf, so that will be something we will look forward to.

My daughter-in-law may be moving there in the near future and she was looking all this stuff up, she said to Patt the same thing, beef is so expensive and fish is cheep, , , , , , I am OK with that because I love fish.

Patt and I have already talked about it and we will be having fish several times a week which suits us just fine because we like fish over all other meats except bacon.

River

Bacon ! <slobber> <drool>

It is like subsistence food to me.

I only mentioned beef because I am sure you can raise, butcher and freeze accordingly your own pork.

It is the preparing of bacon that is an investment. But could extend to smoking hams too.

And fresh chickens are as easy as breaking a neck and plucking feathers.

Fish is so much bull fish because

a gram of fish protein has more nitrogen waste, tough on the kidneys that is why it is bad cat food

a gram of fish protein is harder on your kidneys than a gram of terrestrial critter protein.

In the before time, before WW2 Norway and Japan were the outstanding Kidney health & diseases nations.

They lived on "fish".

So get that terrestrial protein, chicken, pork, goat instead of lamb.

Fish is over rated and unfilling. It could drive you to carbs.

What about tortillas ? No biggee ? Good. They're just carbs anyways. YUM !

Toi's Moi



did you real all people in Colorado are required by law to smoke weed ?

Moi,

A) there's not enough friggen flat land in the state of Hawaii to grow large amounts of beef cattle. Islands tend to have high spots in the middle.

B) Flying it in frozen plastic wrap by air is truly expensive. Headwinds all the way there. Tailwinds on the way back though.

C) floating frozen beef across the Pacific in large refrigerated container ships is also expensive. Freighters ain't prompt or cheap.

D) floating cattle across the Pacific on boats is really ugly because it requires lots of wasted space for feed and lots of dung. You can shovel the shit overboard, I refuse to…

E) Rockets are also out of the question. Apparently it freaks out the steers.

F) Certain woods for home building and certain metal goods are more expensive in Hawaii because there are no factories in paradise and those freighters aren't cheap. UPS trucks don't float and they don't have drones (yet ! ) The price of paradise is a higher cost of living. However, it is truly a paradise.

So please MOI, quit shitting on paradise. While I do know that every living thing in the state of Hawaii shits in some way, I beg you to stop. It's tiresome. I wish I could get up the courage and move that far away to a land that strange but sadly, I'm chicken and I'm too set in my ways to do anything that adventuresome.

And remember the fateful words of Mark Twain -- after three days, guests like dead fish begin to stink.

River best of luck to you in Hawaii. Sounds like you are going to be away from many of the modern technologies. Are you going to miss the internet and EA? If that is the case, I am certain that you will be missed here.

Would you believe they have HIGH speed internet, phone service and even TV in Hawaii, who knew? LOL Actually DirecTV has a lock on all three and its cheaper then here. Yes food is more expensive, however my heating bill will be zero not 250$, like they say, if its hot open a window, cold close it.

As for fish, we look forward to eating the recommended fish twice a week or more however Moi is right the Japanese live longer then any other group of people in the world because they eat all that beef er fish.

Mac, it will take about a month to get all our stuff over to Hawaii but as soon as its there and connected we will be back on line. Maybe sooner with my tablet if I figure out how to do that.

River

Riverwind (imported) wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:27 pm Would you believe they have HIGH speed internet, phone service and even TV in Hawaii, who knew? LOL Actually DirecTV has a lock on all three and its cheaper then here. Yes food is more expensive, however my heating bill will be zero not 250$, like they say, if its hot open a window, cold close it.

As for fish, we look forward to eating the recommended fish twice a week or more however Moi is right the Japanese live longer then any other group of people in the world because they eat all that beef er fish.

Mac, it will take about a month to get all our stuff over to Hawaii but as soon as its there and connected we will be back on line. Maybe sooner with my tablet if I figure out how to do that.

River

That is good! However, I wondered based on what was said about the water.

Oh Dave, c'mon

I am sure there are meat worthy cattle from some mountainous areas of the world. Bred with short legs and long loins.

And the opportunity to graze in Hawai'i is boundless with native plants that are tender and sweet to cattle.

These plants never having faced natural selection for avoidance of grazing animals.

So what !

You think pineapple are native to Hawai'i ?

BTW I did specify before WW2 when nations managed their food more domestically, high fish consuming

Norway and Japan were "Kidney Disease" nations. Not since WW2. Okay .

Moi

Native species need to make room for profitable species. It's the American way.

And What About Bacon ?

Mac, as for water they use a catch system, the rain water is collected from the roof and it goes into a big tank, then its treated before you pump it into the house.

Moi, although cattle is not wide spread in the islands in the northern part of the big island there are some cattle ranches and the big island is not the only one.

Pork is wild on the hoof, lots of pig on the big island, chickens too.

River