Slavery and the Confederacy

[moi621 (imported)]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naming_the ... _Civil_War

I always like "The War between the States".

I would accept "War of Northern Aggression" because all but one battle was fought in States that chose to secede.

Moi

BTW The Bonnie Blue Flag that bears a single star was the flag of the Republic of West Florida 1810

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Flori ... st_Florida

Hurrah!

[Dave (imported)]

And I finally decided to enter this thread.

a) slavery is wrong -- all men ARE created equal.

b) leaving slavery in the USA to get ratification of the Constitution was the USA's Original Sin that has haunted and troubled the Union from that day forward.

c) The South rebelled and lost. Repeat over an over and to no glorify war.

What is it that Isaiah says the righteous should do?

Beat their swords into plowshares and spears into pruning hooks.

Nations shall not take arms against nations, nether shall they make war anymore.

Do not glorify rebellion and war wioth weasel words that "sound good" ...

It does not behoove a righteous man.

Slavery was wrong and the confederacy built its foundation on shifting sands.

[Elizabeth (imported)]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naming_the ... _Civil_War

I always like "The War between the States".

I would accept "War of Northern Aggression" because all but one battle was fought in States that chose to secede.

Moi

BTW The Bonnie Blue Flag that bears a single star was the flag of the Republic of West Florida 1810

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Flori ... st_Florida

Hurrah!

Here, let me help you out with a few quotes from the article you referenced.

The term "War Between the States" was rarely used during the war but became prevalent afterward in the South, as part of an effort to perpetuate its interpretation of the war.

The Confederate government avoided the term "civil war" and referred in official documents to the "War between the Confederate States of America and the United States of America".[7] There are a handful of known references during the war to "the war between the states"

In the United States, "Civil War" is the most common term for the conflict; it has been used by the overwhelming majority of reference books, scholarly journals, dictionaries, encyclopedias, popular histories, and mass media in the United States since the early 20th century.[2] The National Park Service, the government organization entrusted by the United States Congress to preserve the battlefields of the war, uses this term.[3] It is also the oldest term for the war. Writings of prominent men such as Jefferson Davis, Robert E. Lee, Ulysses S. Grant, William Tecumseh Sherman, P.G.T. Beauregard, Nathan Bedford Forrest, and Judah P. Benjamin used the term "Civil War" both before and during the conflict. Abraham Lincoln used it on multiple occasions.[4][5][6] In 1862, the United States Supreme Court used the terms "the present civil war between the United States and the so called Confederate States," as well as "the civil war such as that now waged between the Northern and Southern States."[7]

Elizabeth

[MacTheWolf (imported)]

Elizabeth, actually that conflict had at least three different names, depending on which state wrote the story:

American Civil War

War Between the States

War of the Southern Confederacy

If you want to anger a Southerner, call it a 'rebellion'

[Riverwind (imported)]

So what has changed?

River

[MacTheWolf (imported)]

Right, the Civil War was about slavery, period.

River

I would disagree that the American Civil War was fought about slavery, at least not at first.

The war was fought mainly for two reasons: (1) to show the South, that states' rights do not exceed the rights of the Federal Government and (2) it was fought to punish the Southern states for daring to seceed from the Union.

Slavery was merely an after-thought. Lincoln didn't issue his Emancipation Proclamation till after the Battle of Gettysburg in 1863. And even then, the Proclamation freed only the slaves in the Southern states, and no slaves in the North were affected.

Lincoln's purpose is issuing the Proclamation was to cause civil unrest in the South among the slaves. He hoped the Southern slaves would rise up and rebel causing the South to withdraw military forces from fighting the North and home to put down the rebellious slaves.

[A-1 (imported)]

Elizabeth, actually that conflict had at least three different names, depending on which state wrote the story:

American Civil War

War Between the States

War of the Southern Confederacy

If you want to anger a Southerner, call it a 'rebellion'

If you want to anger a Northerner call it the "The War of Northern Aggression"...

...or other such "Knights of the Invisible Empire" terminology... used by "The Imperial CRUDS"

[gareth19 (imported)]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naming_the ... _Civil_War

I always like "The War between the States".

I would accept "War of Northern Aggression" because all but one battle was fought in States that chose to secede.

But it wasn't a war between separate states; nor was it a war waged by the North. California, Delaware, Vermont and other the civilized states did not wage war on the states controlled by the slave-holding terrorists, nor did the slave-holding terrorists wage war against individual civilized states, instead they directed their fury and criminal intentions against the government and troops of the United States with the treasonous purpose of destroying the Constitution and the federal union which it created. If you cannot accept the simplicity of Civil War then be truthful and call it the The War of the Terrorist Oligarchs, but don't use lying bullshit like "War of Northern Aggression" when it was the United States that was under attack or "War between the States" when it was a war directed against the states by a slave-holding, terrorist oligarchy. The first obligation of history is to tell the truth, not propagate sewer-rat bilge about noble Southern sentiments and states' rights.

[Riverwind (imported)]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naming_the ... _Civil_War

I always like "The War between the States".

I would accept "War of Northern Aggression" because all but one battle was fought in States that chose to secede.

Moi

BTW The Bonnie Blue Flag that bears a single star was the flag of the Republic of West Florida 1810

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Flori ... st_Florida

Hurrah!

I guess all those battles in states like Missouri, Kentucky did not happen because they did not secede from the union, also Maryland had several battles, but so did the territories of NM, CO, ND, ID, and the state of Minnesota had a couple, and we have not even talked about the battles in Ohio or Penn, two there you might remember.

And to think we got this from the same site, one must ask where moi gets his information, then how he decides what is worth while to post.

btw my source is the same as MOI's. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Am ... ar_battles

I guess I looked a bit further then he did,

River

[hazbalz (imported)]

It's not "The War Between the States", it's the American Civil War. This is an attempt of the Southern States to rewrite history by calling it something else.

Elizabeth
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Elizabeth, I live in th

e south and its known as "The War of Northern Aggression" in these parts.