Paolo wrote: Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:45 am Thanks for sharing the pic. Like the Nun, I've been a fan of tattoos and other well-done mods on OTHERS for decades. Love the green guitar! Maybe you can make it to the MOM next year?

I'm not sure

I really don't know if that's something I want to do yet

I have just met you all and I need to get to know you

And thank you

It's my favorite guitar

Hiya T-B-P,

Welcome.

I have to admit I sort of skimmed your posts at first and they didn't enter my long term memory correctly. When I clicked on your picture, I thought to myself, "Hmm. This fellow is going to have a tough time passing as female. He's very masculine. Then I re-read your posts and realized I had the whole thing reversed. (Yes, I'm dumb.) I don't think you have a thing to worry about when looking "manly" to the world. You look great!

When it comes to tattoos, I am a coward. Well, I'm a coward about most things, but tattoos are high on my list. I've never found anything that appeals to me enough to get a permanent picture of it on my body. That said, I think yours is very well done. I like that is has such vivid color, and has a terrific meaning for you.

You'll find everyone around here extremely helpful and kind. I've just come back from my first MoM (Meeting of Members) and it was an amazing experience. Everyone is absolutely fantastic. I'd bring them all home with me if I could. No one fits any kind of predetermined mold, and that makes for some unique and valuable points of view. I'm sure you'd fit right in.

The next MoM is in about a years time. I'm sure by then, you'll know us well enough to consider meeting a few of us. Stick around. We definitely want to know more about you.

Cheers,

Cainanite

Cainanite (imported) wrote: Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:20 am Hiya T-B-P,

Welcome.

I have to admit I sort of skimmed your posts at first and they didn't enter my long term memory correctly. When I clicked on your picture, I thought to myself, "Hmm. This fellow is going to have a tough time passing as female. He's very masculine. Then I re-read your posts and realized I had the whole thing reversed. (Yes, I'm dumb.) I don't think you have a thing to worry about when looking "manly" to the world. You look great!

When it comes to tattoos, I am a coward. Well, I'm a coward about most things, but tattoos are high on my list. I've never found anything that appeals to me enough to get a permanent picture of it on my body. That said, I think yours is very well done. I like that is has such vivid color, and has a terrific meaning for you.

You'll find everyone around here extremely helpful and kind. I've just come back from my first MoM (Meeting of Members) and it was an amazing experience. Everyone is absolutely fantastic. I'd bring them all home with me if I could. No one fits any kind of predetermined mold, and that makes for some unique and valuable points of view. I'm sure you'd fit right in.

The next MoM is in about a years time. I'm sure by then, you'll know us well enough to consider meeting a few of us. Stick around. We definitely want to know more about you.

Cheers,

Cainanite

thank you

that really tickled me!!!!

i took some more pictures before work this morning

what do yall think?

The_Broken_poet (imported) wrote: Mon Aug 13, 2012 2:45 pm http://www.flickr.com/photos/84825122@N07/

Your tattoo? My personal viewpoint?

Magnificent.

For myself, being autistic and transgendered, the beliefs of some other people evidently led them to bully me, to scorn and shun me, to sometimes attempt to torture me into abandoning my inner sense of self.

While I experienced such treatment by others as severely, terribly abusive, it simply NEVER got into me that those folks understood anywhere near enough about themselves as would have been necessary for them to actually understand anything meaningful about me. However, such experiences were often very painful. At the most abusive times, the only way I ever found a way to locate and reassemble the scattered fragments of my life came through listening to music.

Various forms of cross have been used to symbolize different things in different social settings. When I am doing ordinary engineering and need to draw a graph, the coordinate lines on graph paper are crosses. When I have experienced other people attempting to hurt me for being autistic and transgendered, thereby living in defiance of some folks beliefs, the cross is, for me, a useful symbol of the human brokenness that may lead people to act in hurtful ways.

My overall sense of the meaning your tattoo has for me is of acknowledging the difficulties of life well enough to be able to work toward resolving them.

janekane (imported) wrote: Tue Aug 14, 2012 12:34 pm Your tattoo? My personal viewpoint?

Magnificent.

For myself, being autistic and transgendered, the beliefs of some other people evidently led them to bully me, to scorn and shun me, to sometimes attempt to torture me into abandoning my inner sense of self.

While I experienced such treatment by others as severely, terribly abusive, it simply NEVER got into me that those folks understood anywhere near enough about themselves as would have been necessary for them to actually understand anything meaningful about me. However, such experiences were often very painful. At the most abusive times, the only way I ever found a way to locate and reassemble the scattered fragments of my life came through listening to music.

Various forms of cross have been used to symbolize different things in different social settings. When I am doing ordinary engineering and need to draw a graph, the coordinate lines on graph paper are crosses. When I have experienced other people attempting to hurt me for being autistic and transgendered, thereby living in defiance of some folks beliefs, the cross is, for me, a useful symbol of the human brokenness that may lead people to act in hurtful ways.

My overall sense of the meaning your tattoo has for me is of acknowledging the difficulties of life well enough to be able to work toward resolving them.

Nearly spot on!!

I came up with the design because I am a very very christian person

And this may sound nuts, but I truly believe gods Plan for me is never through

I believe that god placed me in the body of a female to test me (one of the reasons I was able to cope with the verbal and physical abuse I was delt at school)

Sound crazy?

The_Broken_poet (imported) wrote: Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:44 pm Nearly spot on!!

I came up with the design because I am a very very christian person

And this may sound nuts, but I truly believe gods Plan for me is never through

I believe that god placed me in the body of a female to test me (one of the reasons I was able to cope with the verbal and physical abuse I was delt at school)

Sound crazy?

Absolutely NOT crazy. Most of us around here have suffered similar abuse. I know I did.

I was never very masculine to begin with. I was always "a little off" as most of my teachers saw me. When I didn't progress through puberty as other kids my age were doing, it got a lot worse. Just having a teacher scream at me to "Man up, and be normal," was incredibly devastating to me. They were asking me to do something that was simply impossible for me to do. They might as well have screamed at me for not defying gravity and levitating. Pretending could only get me so far.

I realize they were (in their way) trying to help me. They were trying to build me into their idea of the perfect person. I suppose that is a teacher's job. But it was harmful. Kids my age were also zero help. And realistically, the kids were a lot more vicious than the adults. Still, it was the adults who would offhandedly make a remark that did the most permanent damage. I remember one teacher saying flippantly, "Boys, go and stand on that far wall. (Cainanite) too, I guess." He got a real good laugh from the class about that little joke. It has stuck with me, though.

You won't find any of that kind of attitude here. This is the one place for me, I can truly be myself. We want to know about you. We don't care, or have any expectations about what is or is not in your pants.

YOU are much more interesting, than any preconceived notions we might have about how you should act or behave or look. Just be yourself. That is all we care about.

P.S.

I think your pictures are great. You are a good looking guy.

The_Broken_poet (imported) wrote: Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:09 pm I strive to look manly:)

What do you all think of my tattoo?

Unlike "the Nun" (Kristoff) and Paolo, I have not only admired well done tattoos on others but have two myself. No one here has ever

Cainanite (imported) wrote: Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:20 am seen either!

I like yours and its personal meaning for you.

Hiya T-B-P,

Welcome.

I have to admit I sort of skimmed your posts at first and they didn't enter my long term memory correctly. When I clicked on your picture, I thought to myself, "Hmm. This fellow is going to have a tough time passing as female. He's very masculine. Then I re-read your posts and realized I had the whole thing reversed. (Yes, I'm dumb.) I don't think you have a thing to

worry about when looking "manly" to the world. You look great!

Ah, sorry, Cainanite.

janekane (imported) wrote: Tue Aug 14, 2012 12:34 pm I've met you and you are NOT dumb! I doubt that anyone reading your many well written posts would think so, either.

Your tattoo? My personal viewpoint?

Magnificent.

For myself, being autistic and transgendered, the beliefs of some other people evidently led them to bully me, to scorn and shun me, to sometimes attempt to torture me into abandoning my inner sense of self.

While I experienced such treatment by others as severely, terribly abusive, it simply NEVER got into me that those folks understood anywhere near enough about themselves as would have been necessary for them to actually understand anything meaningful about me. However, such experiences were often very painful. At the most abusive times, the o

nly way I ever found a way to locate and reassemble the scattered fragments of my life came through listening to music.

Like Jane Kane, and I suspect many others here, I was bullied throughout my teen years. I was very different from other 'boys' my age. They treated me as an outcast and I experienced verbal and physical abuse on a nearly daily basis. I, too, found refuge in music. Gardening and nature also served as escapes.

What seems to be evident is that many transgender folks, and others here, have reached the point where they

The_Broken_poet (imported) wrote: Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:44 pm know themselves far better than most people will ever understand themselves. That is a gift!

[Wish I'd had more time at the MoM to speak with both Cainanite and Jane Kane.]

Nearly spot on!!

I came up with the design because I am a very very christian person

And this may sound nuts, but I truly believe gods Plan for me is never throug

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I believe that god placed me in the body of a female to test me (one of the reasons I was able to cope with the verbal and physical abuse I was delt at school)

Sound crazy?

Your beliefs are there for a reason that is very personal and meaningful. So this does not sound at all crazy.

You are all very supportive of me

Not even my parents where this supportive to begin with (they and around)

And thank you for calling me good looking

I'm debating growing my hair just a little bit more

But also debating a Mohawk