Thanks, Luvpain, for vouching for me.

I've consistently answered the questions the police have asked honestly, but I haven't volunteered information. If I had been dropped off at the ER door with no way to connect me to the street in question I might not have given out the location of the house where it happened, but as I was found on the street, and with the possibility (probability) of suicide, I decided that was the better course at the time. Of course, reasonable people could draw the opposite conclusion. I guess I didn't and don't think he should die just because we ran into some bad luck. I still think he's a talented cutter, and have heard from others this week who used his services without incident. As I say, just bad luck.

I don't want to sound disrespectful. I'm glad you found the strength and the method to achieve your dream. If I where in the same situation I don't think I'd be able to face it so honestly.

So please don't answer if you don't want to. I'm just some guy with a wacky curiosity.

What was it that made you laugh?

As you all know by know I am taking Androcur and under Doctors care and advise, I will be see Dr Kimmel this Sept 6th and taking a friend along for camera work and moral support.

I looked into cutters, tried a couple of times to castrated myself, when I came to the conclusion that, that was stupid.

It is unfortanet that we have lost another cutter but I would reather see the medical community step up to the plate and offer this kind of surgery at an afforidable price and have the option of where to go. Right now we only have two choises. Kimmel/Spector or a cutter. not much to choise from.

This whole insident makes me sad. We have a cutter that was tring to do good not harm and he will be gone for a while. We have Don who made all the news papers in his area which is somthing I know he wanted all to know.

The whole thing is just sad.

Well, the operation was over, we were just sitting around talking and joking, and I laughed. Of course I suppose I was feeling sort of jolly at the moment since I had finally become a eunuch. That did have me in a good mood

I guess they must have gotten that detail from the police from my cutter's statement. I'm sure I didn't mention that kind of detail to them (remember, just answer the questions honestly, don't volunteer anything)

JustOneQuestion (imported) wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2002 9:22 am I don't want to sound disrespectful. I'm glad you found the strength and the method to achieve your dream. If I where in the same situation I don't think I'd be able to face it so honestly.

So please don't answer if you don't want to. I'm just some guy with a wacky curiosity.

What was it that made you laugh?

Don,

I am glad your happy, I know I will probably laugh also when mine are finally gone. I will have a friend with me taking pictures and telling jokes so I know I will be laughing. I understand its a relief and emotions will let loose.

Riverwind the Happy Eunuch

I agree with you that it's unfortunate we've lost another cutter. I really believe mine was a talented one (I've heard absolutely no bad reports from anyone else who was castrated by him) who was just caught up in my bad luck that night without the training or the equipment to fix the problem. As it happened, by the time I got to the hospital it was a 3-hour operation to fix things up.

I agree with you that it would be good to see castration available as elective surgery, but I think it hits too close to home for the (mostly male) medical establishment to even consider.

And as for your last point, I'm grateful to the Oak Park Police for not revealing my name (although 48 years old from Birmingham does narrow it down a lot As it happens, people in my area weren't even aware I was out sick the last three days. When they asked where I had been I just said I was a little under the weather :tongueout not a lie, just not the whole truth ) My boss knew I had been in the hospital, because he picked me up there Monday, but I don't think he pays attention to the local media. In any event, if he sussed it out he didn't let on today.

Riverwind (imported) wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2002 4:09 pm As you all know by know I am taking Androcur and under Doctors care and advise, I will be see Dr Kimmel this Sept 6th and taking a friend along for camera work and moral support.

I looked into cutters, tried a couple of times to castrated myself, when I came to the conclusion that, that was stupid.

It is unfortanet that we have lost another cutter but I would reather see the medical community step up to the plate and offer this kind of surgery at an afforidable price and have the option of where to go. Right now we only have two choises. Kimmel/Spector or a cutter. not much to choise from.

This whole insident makes me sad. We have a cutter that was tring to do good not harm and he will be gone for a while. We have Don who made all the news papers in his area which is somthing I know he wanted all to know.

The whole thing is just sad.

Don,

Riverwind (imported) wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2002 4:52 pm I am glad your happy, I know I will probably laugh also when mine are finally gone. I will have a friend with me taking pictures and telling jokes so I know I will be laughing. I understand its a relief and emotions will let loose.

Riverwind the Happy Eunuch

I want to know if Dr.Kimmel carries on a practice of Dr. Spector. He removed my right testicle first, then the left. Asthe left came off, he held it up for me to see and said "Congratulations! You are now a eunuch!". Jeff Adams applauded.

Yeah I am very sad about it also. It has put more of a bad light on our community. I am very grateful that Don did survive with out to much trouble other than the hospitalization and police questioning.

I am disappointed about losing another good underground cutter, on whom I am sure would have gone to when I was ready. I lost a very good Bondage/CBT partner because of it. Hopefully the cutter won't face any charges, but with all the happenings since 9/11 I doubt that he will be allowed to stay here in the USA.

As Riverwind states we need more Doctors willing to perform castrations, to make it easier for us to obtain, and lower the cost factor involved in having it done professionally.

This incident may have cast a bad light upon our community, but honestly I can't see the mainstream press getting involved in our community UNLESS it was something which cast a bad light.

I am glad though, that Don is ok.

IEunuch.

BossTamsin (imported) wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2002 11:53 pm This incident may have cast a bad light upon our community, but honestly I can't see the mainstream press getting involved in our community UNLESS it was something which cast a bad light.

I am glad though, that Don is ok.

IEunuch.

It makes your community look sloppy.

The mainstream press IS involved.