1 month check up. Androcur working great.

[two acorns (imported)]

Two Acorns, it sounds like your getting better results than I am, congrats. I hope you are not partaking on this journey without consulting your Doc. Siterone, has the ability to really screw up your body if you are not careful. At the very least get your liver function and standard blood tests done 2 times per year. You can ask your regular General Practitioner Doc to order these tests for you when you get your annual physical.

As far as individual results when on Siterone-Androcur, it appears from reading info here on the EA, that everyone has different results, and it does not appear to be age related. I found Wikipedia to have some good info on Chemical Castration. Lots of Medical terminology that can be hard to read through but if you just keep diving deeper into the threads, you will find lots of interesting stuff.

Remember guys, we have only one body per lifetime. If you do something stupid and screw this one up, it may be impossible to fix it. Think of your family and loved ones before doing ANYTHING that can mess with how you were originally designed. Play smart, play safe.

Thanx, Hoosierdad.

Hoosierdad: At the moment I'm 'flying' blind and I'm not fully comfortable with it either. But I'm already overdue for my next check up and I won't wait long before I go to see the doc. If it stays like this, I would expect my testosterone levels to be quite low. It'll be interesting to see how he will react to that one...

Before I started on Siterone I read a lot of material on the internet (Wikipedia etc.) and also a lot of primary medical literature. I have a biomedical background which helps to understand the terminology of those articles. Furthermore, through work I have free access to all major 'learned journals' and there is a lot of interesting stuff being published.

From reading the literature I learned that most (of course not all) major side effects arise from high doses (above 100 mg / day) and long term use (many months). That's the main reason why I'm eager to reduce my intake (currently 50 mg / day). Maybe I can even reduce it to 50 mg / every two days?

As a long-term lurker at the EA I'm happy to report on my experiences so that others may benefit from them, as I benefited from postings of others.

[mlooking2 (imported)]

Why are you talking this ? I was on Siterone a form of Cyproterone For 6 months. My Pharmacy never heard of these drugs. I asked them if i could take this with COUMADIN® (Warfarin Sodium) As I developed blood clots in my leg. I don't even know if the Siterone was the reason for the clots. But my testosterone levels went from 750 to 3. My Doctor didn't know I was on this .

But I did aske her for help the lower my labeto abd she said its to dangerous. I was having my liver tested and it was fine. She seen my low testos and never said a thing, Im guessing she new I was treating myself. I started on one pill for a month and dropped to a 1/4 pill and it was working great for me. I would still be on them if not for the mixing Wargfarin and Siterone question, And I would love to know if the Siterone caused the clots.

I was talking this to see if I liked being castrated, And I loved it. Only stopped because of the clots. Plus my new GF don't like intercourse she is 60 and I'm 55. So we seemed to be perfect for each other. But now that I'm off the drug I want intercourse and she don't. So its not working out well for us. Hoosierdad

What are your plans for you and the wife ? And whats your ages ?

[_g (imported)]

Thanks! I'm just wondering if being 22 y/o, the effects will happen faster or be greater, and perhaps totally get rid of all masculinity and then take estrogen to totally fem...curious, i am!

It totally depends on how you look now, if you still look like you a kid in puberty most likely you will not have any problems passing as a female. If you look like an man then you will need more help to pass.

But it's not about your looks or not it's about how you feel about your self. If you feel more like an female or eunuch than a man. The question will end up ARE YOU HAPPY? after all is said and done!

_g

[hoosierdad (imported)]

MLOOKING2, the reason I started Andorcur was to try and save my marriage. My wife of 11 yrs (she is 37, I am 45) and I have VERY different libidos. She does not understand how I can be so interested in sex and all things sexual. After meeting with a Sex Therapist and talking with several Docs, I decided to try and lower my Libido to match hers. We felt this was the only way either of us would stop feeling the guilt, remorse and resentment that has been plaguing our relationship for the last few years. For example she would cuddle with me in bed and I would get an erection. Every time I would get excited with my wife, I felt the only way I could be content was to get her to take the sexual activity to the next level. After she would deny me of this request I would feel resentment and she would feel guilt. The few times per year she would want sex, it was completely on her terms. Actual sexual penetration is painful for her most times so I usually ended up servicing her and bringing her to orgasm. After she would orgasm she would roll over in bed and again leave me very unsatisfied. I felt this destructive pattern could repeat itself only so many times before the marriage would collapse. I decided to go on Androcur to lower my Testosterone levels and see if it would help. If it did not work, I could always stop the meds after a trial period and everything would return to normal eventually.

I have been on Androcur for 6 weeks now and we are both VERY happy with the results. We can cuddle without me getting an erection and when I do get excited, it seems that I can be very content with just some harmless petting and then it can end. I am finally in control of my Libido and I LOVE it. I am hoping to stay on the Meds for a few years if my doc says I am not harming my body. After that time I hope my Testicles have atrophied enough that they no longer work, if not I will look into a more permanent solution with my Docs approval.

I feel better about my marriage that I have in years. No, not everything is all peaches and cream, but we believe we are on the path to a much healthier relationship.

[frankwilder (imported)]

I am just blown away by the honesty, love and courage that comes through these postings.

Quick question for hoosierdad and anyone else with experience on this. How did you find a doctor to prescribe and monitor Androcur? How did you raise the subject?

[unencumbered (imported)]

What hossierdad said in his previous post is similar to my experience.

[hoosierdad (imported)]

Finding a Doc to work with me was quite a challenge. I started the discussion with my wife in Sept. 2010. We talked with her Gynecologist due to the fact she knew of our sexual difficulties and had been working with my wife for several years to see if there was anything she could do. She thought lowering my Testosterone levels was a great idea and said she would give her 2 cents worth to my doc if necessary. I then contacted my Urologist and discussed my sexual problems with him. He thought Chemical Castration was a bad idea due to the fact the drugs he is used to working with have very bad side effects. I advised him there are other drugs like Androcur out there that can be taken in low doses and still get the desired effect. He said he would look into the other Meds and keep me posted. He also gave me some samples of Avodart and said take these for 1 month and see what results you get.

In the meanwhile my wife and I met with a Sexual Therapist and we talked about lowering my Libido to match my wife's. She was familiar with Chem Castration but only in men with Deviant Sexual problems. She had never worked with anyone that would take the drug voluntarily to just lower their Libido. She thought it might work, but she would not prescribe the meds either, She recommended talking to my General Practitioner and see what he said.

So at my annual physical I mentioned to my doc my problems with my Libido and that I wanted to lower my Testosterone. He practically laughed out loud and said no way would lowering my T levels make my sex life better. (the joke is on him, he's not my doc anymore and I won't recommend his practice)

A couple of months had passed since I brought the subject up with my wife and she was beginning to wonder if anyone wanted to help us. My Urologist finally called me back after I sent him the info on Androcur and requested he research it as he had promised. He finally agreed to talk to me and he began by stating the drugs have very nasty side effects. He asked me how the Avodart was working. After being on it for 2 months, my occurrence of erections was diminished but not my Libido. After a lengthy talk he finally agreed to give me the script and order blood tests to help monitor my Liver function, standard blood work as well as T levels. I began taking Androcur the first week of January. The rest as they say is history.

My personal opinion is that male docs can not understand how a man would want to lower their T levels. They are usually prescribing meds to help men get erections so they can have more sex not less. I feel the 2 female docs I spoke with were far more understanding and I would try to find a female doc over a male doc any day of the week.

Good luck, be persistent, and bring copies of all the info you can gather about the meds you want to be on when you meet with you doc.

[Caith721 (imported)]

Hoosierdad, you are living in the US, and a doctor gave you a prescription for Androcur? I thought the FDA had not approved that drug for prescribing/dispensing within the US borders?

Just wondering....

[hoosierdad (imported)]

Doc gave me a script for Cyproterone Acetate, and I am getting it from a Pharmacy in Canada where they still have Androcur.

[erikboy (imported)]

Thanks! I'm just wondering if being 22 y/o, the effects will happen faster or be greater, and perhaps totally get rid of all masculinity and then take estrogen to totally fem...curious, i am!

Masculine features you have already developed won't go away after castration. You won't get more masculine after. Some masculine features will change. Your muscles will atrophy and your fat distribution will change and amount of fat will increase. The earlier you get castrated the less masculine features you develope. But it is very individual again. Developing these features. For example I didn't develope hair on chest before 30th birthday.