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Re: dr marci bowers moves to california
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 8:30 am
by EricaAnn (imported)
BossTamsin (imported) wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:23 am
Quite honestly, I can agree with being allowed to refuse testosterone treatment. But as far as the rest is concerned...
Even if there's a 1% chance that you could regret it later, and so long as you're legally allowed to come back and sue the hell out of the doc for doing the procedure, it's not gonna be an 'on demand' type of surgery.
Shit like the McDonalds coffee incident, or any number of other court cases these days, only reinforces the opinion that it's better to turn away 1,000 people than to risk even one who might come back and sue. (I seem to recall hearing of someone, I think in Florida, who went so far as to fake psychiatric letters for SRS, only to regret it afterwards. They then successfully sued the doctor for performing the surgery, on the basis that the doc should have checked the letters more carefully. My Google-fu is failing me for a reference, however.)
Frankly, I can't see the medical establishment ever adopting anything other than a rigid checklist of some kind for these kinds of procedures. Partly to ensure that those who do get the operation know what they're getting into and are stable enough to understand the consequences, but mostly to cover their own asses in the likely event that one of their patients decides it was a huge mistake a couple years down the road.
IEunuch, I couldn't agree with you more. It's far to easy to sue someone else today for one owns mistakes.
While I don't necessarily care for the Standards of Care, I do understand why they are there and followed by almost all doctors involved with this type of surgery.
Re: dr marci bowers moves to california
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 8:36 am
by devi (imported)
As for that "lawsuit with the
" incident in possibly Florida, if you can't google it, then it didn't happen and if you can google it still probably didn't happen afterall. You can't believe half of what you hear or read. Too many people with agendas distort facts and even pull stuff straight out of thin air.
Re: dr marci bowers moves to california
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 12:55 pm
by BossTamsin (imported)
devi (imported) wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2010 8:36 am
As for that "lawsuit with the
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fake psychiatric letters for SRS
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istort facts and even pull stuff straight out of thin air.
Regardless of the truth of that particular point of my argument, the rest stands. So long as personal responsibility is at a particular low point, and so long as there remains a risk of lawsuit, I don't think you're going to find docs willing to perform the procedure without some kind of protocol path in place.
Re: dr marci bowers moves to california
Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 5:09 am
by nullorchis (imported)
I do not agree that the desire for castration is always a mental disorder.
If you reach a point in your life where you are no longer interested in having sex, do not want to have children, and your medical history includes at least one male member of your DNA family having prostate or especially testicle cancer, I support preventative medicine - get rid of them as they are no longer needed, wanted, and put you at risk of medical consequences much worse than being without balls.
Re: dr marci bowers moves to california
Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 10:13 am
by Mac (imported)
nullorchis (imported) wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2010 5:09 am
I do not agree that the desire for castration is always a mental disorder.
If you reach a point in your life where you are no longer interested in having sex, do not want to have children, and your medical history includes at least one male member of your DNA family having prostate or especially testicle cancer, I support preventative medicine - get rid of them as they are no longer needed, wanted, and put you at risk of medical consequences much worse than being without balls.
It would be great if the doctors and medical insurance companies agreed with you.
Re: dr marci bowers moves to california
Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 5:03 am
by nullorchis (imported)
Plastic surgery for non-medically necessary reasons isn't the kind of thing that I would expect insurance companies to pay for.
Government and religious organizations dictate rules that control voluntary medical procedures. Without such restraints, as long as one has the money, there would be qualified doctors willing to perform elective surgery. Not all, for some would have personal convictions; but money is money, and as long as not illegal, or otherwise adversely affect their careers, elective surgeries would be possible.
But it isn't going to happen. We live in a society where you are free to live your life, as long as you do so within the exacting boundaries as established by church and state.