Dave you are 100% on the money and I agree that you have to plan for everting that could go wrong and everything that will!

Don't forget Sods law: If something can go wrong it wll!

You have overlooked discussion of one avenue used by some here.

That is, those who have damaged their balls either with burdizzo, alcohol

or extended banding to the extent that their doctor is willing to take them off.

I assume that in the UK the national medical insurance covers the removal

of infarcted testicles.

Sweetpickle (imported) wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:33 pm You have overlooked discussion of one avenue used by some here.

That is, those who have damaged their balls either with burdizzo, alcohol

or extended banding to the extent that their doctor is willing to take them off.

I assume that in the UK the national medical insurance covers the removal

of infarcted testicles.

Sweetpickle, the NHS over here will fix anyone free of charge,it is all in our taxes.

So if I so damage my balls

Sweetpickle (imported) wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:33 pm with burdizzo, alcohol or extended banding

or a botched DIY cutting of the cords, they will sort me out as long as I get to the hospital on time or call an ambulance.

One could therfore advise a good old torture session, makea mess, call an ambulance and bingo my prolems are all gone and it would not cost me a penny. I doubt very much whether the hospital would make me see a psychiatrist. As soon as I am fit they would want me out the door for the next patient.

Best of all there would be no bill for my 'stupidity'

So that is the best recourse?

Leave it to the experts after making a mess?

However, I believe it is possible to do it in the comfort ofmy own home without having to fall back on the health service if I can figure out how to deal with all curved balls and possible complications. Dave is right, if something can go wrong it probablly will, life is like that.

One of the cases quoted had a twisted/contorted testicle and that caused massive bleeding....hence the problem If they had made an informed decision before cutting it off by looking at it and diagnosing it as abnormal and stopped because of the complication all would have been well.

The only way to do that is information and/or experience. If you read the manual and think about what you are doing it is possible that you will not go too far beyond the point of no return.

Let me give you an example. My left testicle has a big cyst on the cord above the testicle. It is about 20 mm long and rather like a small testicle (I have 3!!). I am told it is just a cyst, in spite of the fact that it causes me chronic pain and they won't remove it and if they did they would not take out the other 'healthy' testicle as well.

So if I cut my scrotum open and look at the testicle and cord properly and it it is not possible to cut it out safely, I would stich myself up and give up.

I would not, just start hacking away because of the need to get stiched up quickly because of the bleeding. I would do it in a measured and orderly way.

If I had a wealth of knowledge about all the possible complications my analytical brain would kick in and I would know what to do.

Yes, of course it would be best left to a doctor with years of experience, but that is not an option.

I am no where near the fount of all knowledge on this subject, there are those here who collectively could pull together a great resource.

In fact the archive is so big, if you go back in time all this has been discuseed there and ther anyway. It is all here, just not in one consistent thread.

jcat, well said i totaly agree with everything that you said in that post,it is no doubt down to the fact that no planning was done, that ended with those that we read about ending up in hospital.

I think that is the case but sometimes the urge to cut overcomes our good sense. I have exposed my right testicle in just just such a case but had the good sense to stop when I realized I did not have the supplies to complete the job properly. I am going to get all my supplies together and the next time I get the urge to cut I will finish the job properly. I have tried to find help but have not had any luck and have come to the realization that if I want this done I will probably have to do it myself. Next time I am going to be prepared and do it right.

Go to POST #10 in this thread.

Milkman (imported) wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:56 am http://www.eunuch.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=1

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IT talks about the structure of the blood vessels in the scrotum and why it is so dangerous to try to cut off your testicles. IT is worth a read.

Essentially, the blood supply for your testicles connects to the aorta, the major blood supply. That's why you can bleed out so fast. That's why we make all these cautionary posts.

go read post #10

Milkman (imported) wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:56 am : http://www.eunuch.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=1

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well at least it is some sort of information that will let people know what the dangers are of self castration,that was what was being asked for in the first palce.After all it is better to give some sort of advice to those who will attempt to self castrate,and might not lead to so many people who will end up in the er department,or as we often read about the people who end up bleeding out and end in death. We all might not agree with self castration and certainly do not believe in that methord to castration,and it should only be done by a doctor in the right setting,and is something i hav said before. But i also believe whether we agree with it or not but people shoul be able to get some sort of informaion,if they are going to go down that road,is it not better that they get that information on here.God knows any sort of information about castration,on the net is hard enough to get.

As Dave, demonstrates, bleeding to death beacause of the aortal artery is a real danger.

Once you cut the cord and let it go, it will disappear into the inguinal canal and you are in trouble.

Surgeons, prefer an inguinal incision, they then pull the testicle out completely, they will use a piece of drain rubber to tourniquet, then clamp, divide and sutre.

By using the tourniquet they can then release the cord and if it bleeds go back to work.

I certainly would not try or reccomend an inguinal incision at home. You have to cut deep through layers of tissue and unless you really know what you are doing you could end up in serious difficulty very quickly.

Secondly, the inguinal method takes a lot longer to both perform and heal.

However, there is sometiong to learned from the inguinal method.

Use a tourniquet

Clamp the cord

Make sure you can 'test' it before release

You know how to suture properly

Use a cautery tool

It is interesting to note that 'bloodless' vasectomies are performed using disposable cautery tools. (10 for $99!). This little iron simple sears and fuses the cut together as you go. At 2000 + degrees, this is hot and remarkably uses the bodies own tissue to create a 'weld' that can withstand the bodies blood pressure.

The real danger of self surgery as many body modders will tell you is that your stiches break because of blood pressure.

A search for 'Cautery tools' on google or 'bloodless vasectomy' is very interesting. This kind of tool is used specifically to cut & seal as you go an d can be used to make very big incisions. In fact there are a wide range of tips & cutters for different kinds of jobs.

Surgery at home does not mean using the carving knife, you need to invest in some medical kit to do it.

On a lighter note if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen!

Why would someone subject themselves to this risk of cutting themselves open? I am amazed and no way could a forum like this create a guide for people to perform surgery on themselves.

Prostatracura seemed to achieve it with relative ease with the bands to act as a tourniquet. I was wondering though, couldn't he have avoided the high risk of cutting himself and bleeding to death by stopping after he banded as he evidently had stopped the blood flow of the artery?

Conscientious (imported) wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2010 5:44 am Why would someone subject themselves to this risk of cutting themselves open? I am amazed and no way could a forum like this create a guide for people to perform surgery on themselves.

Prostatracura seemed to achieve it with relative ease with the bands to act as a tourniquet. I was wondering though, couldn't he have avoided the high risk of cutting himself and bleeding to death by stopping after he banded as he evidently had stopped the blood flow of the artery?

Concern on the possibility of blood poisoning upon unbanding kept that from being a serious option to me.

How long would it take until the testicles died (and fell off)? Then what?

Considering how incredibly painful the single banding test run I did was, I cannot imagine keeping those bands on for days or weeks! I know once the anesthesia wore off after an hour in the ER the pain was incredibly unbearable -- thrashing around and flipping-the-fuck out type of painful. (I've always wondered if they let me go on like that without pain meds intentionally. It seems like they could have given me something to kill the pain long before then). If it weren't for the shot for pain they finally had given me, I wonder how long that kind of pain would have went on? If I had just kept banded and hoped for them to fall off how long would that pain have stayed with me? And I'm certain chance of infection would have increased greatly if I chosen to do it that way.

As far as auto-castration goes, banding and hoping for the best seemed like a terrible route.