turtle12 (imported) wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:38 pm Don't quite understand the psychology of the man who wants a Tgirl. Does he want his Tgirl to be castrated? If she takes meds to make her breasts grow will that end her need for castration? Pics or videos I've seen show the Tgirls with dicks so is it correct that a penectomy would make her something else in the eyes of guys who like Tgirls?

It boils down to this. Should I have a castration? Should I keep my balls? What meds do I take to make my breasts grow? What would make me the most desirable Tgirl (pussy girl) to guys? I have the very tiny recessed turtle dick and wonder if I should have it removed and have a clit made? Where is the best medical practice to have the type work done that you guys would recommend? Thanks!

Thank you for the questions! We all learn somehow from some place.

You open up your question turtle by remarking your lack of phycological understanding men. I can say that of all the men I have dated/slept with/talked to regarding my being transgenderd is really the topic of interest. It so happens that I am a eunuch so yes I have been castrated & thus have tried a few things along the way such as hormones and surgeries to inhance my "femininity". These things(hormones, breast development, beauty products) Have all been largly motivated by the medias ideal. I say to you turtle that if you are simply looking to attract a man as a transsexual then hormones, Surgeries, clothing & Cosmetics could all work wonders. Though if your looking to attract a man who loves you for you really being you ( notice the over use of the word you) then you must look inside your self, ask yourself what it is about your body and soul that needs a bit of fixen to help make you happy.

Ok so now with all that said, the men that I have been with who are attracted to tgirls/shemales like a women with a penis that works. They like to suck on it & be penetrated.

homptydumpty (imported) wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:16 am Ok so now with all that said, the men that I have been with who are attracted to tgirls/shemales like a women with a penis that works. They like to suck on it & be penetrated.

Personally, I have no desire to be penetrated, but I would love to suck her penis as much as I want her to suck mine.

If a guy likes T-girls as a category, rather than liking women and happening to find a T-girl he likes, then he probably wants them to still have the male genitalia. I mean a fully transitioned transsexual should basically be a woman, so any guy with her shouldn't be thinking "all right I'm fulfilling my T-girl fetish".

I think the reasons guys (even those who otherwise are quite "straight") may be attracted to a T-girl with balls is that most biological women are really not particularly horny. A T-Girl really wants to suck your cock, whereas most women see it as a chore. Also, presumably a T-girl knows more about how a penis works and are therefore more practiced in pleasuring. I think if a guy really wants to be penetrated though then there is probably some latent homosexuality involved.

What I don't understand is why many transsexuals keep their male genitalia and seem to enjoy having it. If they are so out of place in a male body I'd think they'd definitely want to get rid of the most male part of their body.

I realize that the surgery itself is a barrier to some, but it seems that some T-girls actually prefer to keep the male genitals.

Just seems strange to me ... but of course there is no reason that people should fit into compartments.

mrt (imported) wrote: Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:16 am But with Brass I get sparks flying out my ass! Err I think....

Re another comment I really disagree. I don't think Fetish is a "Must" in a relationship. For some people I'm quite sure this is true but for a large percentage of us its mutual love and respect and a little bit of lust.

Clankety

stewie69 (imported) wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2009 7:12 pm clankety clank! Get a couple of magnesium ones

I just found this thread. I hope I don't offend anyone, but here's how I feel...

I consider myself a straight guy. I adore women, and men don't appeal to me in the least. T-girls, though, are a special weakness for me. I've always been fascinated by them, and I would love to be with such a girl. Many of them really do appear feminine and passable. (Those that look more like guys in drag don't do it for me. No offense.) There have been quite a few in Transformation magazine over the years that have really gotten me excited. (Kimberly Devine is an all-time fave of mine.) After reading this thread, I found pics of Danielle Foxx, pre- and post-op. She's beautiful now, for sure, but I would have loved to have been with her when she still had her penis. Anyway, point being, if I did have a relationship with a T-girl, I would not want her to give up

her male genitals, unless that was her true desire.

No to be fair, if you have a preference that's understandable. If you can still accept her despite her going for the op because she wanted it, in spite of your preference, that is fine too! It's those who have stopped liking her after she has had the op done, and those who now downright loathe her, who I think are just human scum. TSes do not need to date that kind of people who don't see them as women, but as something entirely seperate from who they actually are(i.e, women)

SplitDik (imported) wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:56 am What I don't understand is why many transsexuals keep their male genitalia and seem to enjoy having it. If they are so out of place in a male body I'd think they'd definitely want to get rid of the most male part of their body.

I realize that the surgery itself is a barrier to some, but it seems that some T-girls actually prefer to keep the male genitals.

Just seems strange to me ... but of course there is no reason that people should fit into compartments.

Same reason why there are women who can deal with having small breasts, a nose too big, lips too thin etc.

The identity is female. The body is male. Sure theres a physical mismatch, but its not the end of the world, not for some anyway. There are more important things to worry about in life, so many things to do, to see, to buy (like my future lamborghini).

I personally feel that gender dysphoria does not mean one has to hate one's own body, even if the sex does not match the gender. Logically gender dysphoria should manifest itself as being uncomfortable with trying to fit into the social gender role assigned to one due to one's physical sex, that is at odds with one's psychological gender.

People who dislike their own genitals and either wish to get rid of it or have the genitals of the opposite sex, THAT is a physical genital dysphoria. Afterall if there are men who have penile dysphoria, and men who don't, why must it be seen that ALL transgirls have a penile dysphoria? It surely seems logical that some do and some don't as well.

Being a woman is not about what's between one's legs. Its about what's between one's ears. While I don't personally have a strong desire to "keep them", I'm not bothered about using and enjoying whatever I got either. Maybe its because I'm a survivalist, maybe its because I'm ex-military, but making the best out of what you got, making the best out of the circumstance, just seems like the best path to take.

And because its whats between the ears thats more important in determining who I am, I'm really not too bothered about surgery being a must either. My brain is 100% comfortable being female, being socially female, so I don't need any physical op to "convince myself" of a fact I already know. If I do get the op, I see getting it as being like giving a nice exquisite dessert to a happy, healthy person, rather than giving water to a person dying of thirst.

Clankety clankety clank! Get a couple of magnesium ones

punkypink (imported) wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:53 am No to be fair, if you have a preference that's understandable. If you can still accept her despite her going for the op because she wanted it, in spite of your preference, that is fine too! It's those who have stopped liking her after she has had the op done, and those who now downright loathe her, who I think are just human scum. TSes do not need to date that kind of people who don't see them as women, but as something entirely seperate from who they actually are(i.e, women)

So what would you call this?

CLACKERS for CRACKERS?

This whole thread is about NUTS...

JesusA (imported) wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2009 2:19 pm Hello Emily,

If I didn’t know better, I would suspect that you were a 60 year old philosopher, rather than a 26 year old youngster. What you have written is both wise and wonderful.

Love is not the meshing of complementary body parts, it is the meeting of compatible minds and emotions. It is the coming together of two individuals where their sum is greater than their individuality. Physical closeness may be important, but emotion is much more so. A recent survey of 2000 American seniors found that 83% of them claimed that “true love’ could exist without sex. Hugging and cuddling may be critical, but inserting body parts needn’t be.

Thank you for your wonderful post.

I second that! Wonderful philosophy.

On a small side note I think some of this (all?) is body image. The desire to have our bodies be what we think they should be. In my case it was to take care of my atrophied (broken non working) testes and get silicone implants that were the size of what I thought would be proper male testicles.

my male 2 MALE sex change.

I really appreciate all the thoughtful sharing of information in respons to my original post. After reading all this I think I'd better keep my pitiful little dick and balls and work on getting bigger breasts. From some responses to my listings I have found guys who don't care if I have a little turtle dick and balls. They want to play with my man tits, love me all over and fuck me. This takes a lot of the pressure off of my embarassment and feeling of inadequacy.

So, can I get bigger tits without ingesting hormones or having surgical implants. Are there creams that work? Do vacuum pumps work? What's your best advice for this one who wants to be a pussy boy for a manly top man. Thanks for your helpful input!

turtle12 (imported) wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:36 am So, can I get bigger tits without ingesting hormones or having surgical implants. Are there creams that work? Do vacuum pumps work? What's your best advice for this one who wants to be a pussy boy for a manly top man. Thanks for your helpful input!

From my point of view, it's far more important for you to work on getting your body soft, smooth and totally hairless. Then you'll look far more feminine and girlie whether you have any breast developement or not.

As for your "tits," there are herbs on the market that are suppose to help with that. Be sure to do your research first and talk to a doctor about that, too.

Some years ago I use to email with a "girl" who was taking some kind of herb and "she" said that "her" breasts were developing to the point where the men where she worked made fun of "her" about it.

And, YES, do keep your little peepee and your little balls. A little, tiny penis and balls are so very femme! Some of us love that on a "girl!" I sure do!!!

Best of luck to you and keep us posted on your progress.