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Re: Google/Bing ban - Read & Help Please

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 1:40 am
by ghostautumn (imported)
Here's my Digg for the Archives: http://digg.com/health/Eunuch_Archive_Message_Boards.

Unfortunately social bookmarking sites aren't nearly as widely used as traditional search engines. For most people Google and its main rivals are the bottlenecks through which they view (a very small portion of) the Internet.

Re: Google/Bing ban - Read & Help Please

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 7:36 am
by Milkman (imported)
I agree the stories should be on a separate site..

Re: Google/Bing ban - Read & Help Please

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 12:12 pm
by Losethem (imported)
We don't know what specific section of the site the objection is lodged towards, so it is difficult to say definitively why it was censored. The people censoring are not telling the administrators what they would have to do to get the ban lifted. Segmenting the site content is pointless unless the administrators know that is what the objection is.

It's very difficult to take action to clear up what people are objecting to if they don't tell you what it is. Google and Bing have teamed up against the archive and essentially said, "We've banned you, we're not telling you why, so go suck it!"

So, unless the archive can sue Google and Bing for reinstatement, the archive will be banned. Guess what? Those two companies have DEEP pockets, so unless a benevolent legal team (IE ACLU) gets involved, the ban is likely to stay in place. 😠

I suppose one way to work around the ban would be to change the URL of the archive. That is unless Google and Bing banned us by IP address instead of URL.

Re: Google/Bing ban - Read & Help Please

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 5:20 pm
by kristoff
We've set up a reference page which we are promoting. It provides basic information and links to all places on the forums, but no direct links to the stories. We have a master of the internet working on getting us listed in the search engines, and many other places. Check us out.

www.eunuchworld.com

Re: Google/Bing ban - Read & Help Please

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 5:09 am
by graylayer02 (imported)
Definitely I think that this is for the better, and I like the educational wiki idea when it comes to static content like the effects of castration, forms of HRT, methods that are used (in not too much detail), dealing with transgender stuff, dealing with doctors, dealing with partners, motivations for doing this, and the like. Another idea would be a more controlled educational site like annelawrence.com for transgenders, but that would be too much work for one or two people.

In other news, that link that I gave a week ago is now only giving results for me when I type in 'eunuch.org' and not 'eunuch' or 'eunuch archive'. The noose does seem to be tightening somewhat. Google is also beginning to censor domestic content like unflattering pictures of the Obamas (really!) so I'm thinking of avoiding them entirely. Yahoo isn't any better.

Re: Google/Bing ban - Read & Help Please

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 8:47 pm
by ghostautumn (imported)
Yeah, I love a lot of the services Google provides but their market domination is extremely damaging when it comes to things like this. I keep waiting for next-generation search engines like clusty.com to start gaining some traction but they never seem to.

Re: Google/Bing ban - Read & Help Please

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:56 pm
by Milkman (imported)
I just tried "clusty.com" and was disappointed.. the search for images seems particularly weak

Re: Google/Bing ban - Read & Help Please

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:38 am
by nullorchis (imported)
When I first discovered the EA I was surprised (not shocked) to find that it was much more inclusive than I expected. Inclusive meaning penectomy, transgender, transexual, etc. My perception of "eunuch" was (and still is) just a physically castrated male. I still have a personal definition of "virtual eunuch" for someone with testicles but with low to no testosterone (due to chemical or natural reasons). I am a "virtual eunuch".

While I have submitted a story or two, and read a few in the past, that part of the EA is of no interest to me now. Having stories as a completely unrelated site would be fine to me.

My vision for the EA is myopic; I prefer it as a place for men, who desire to be or have been surgically or chemically emasculated, to communicate with other men who have the same interests, and learn from them, and pass on what is learned. All the other stuff, jokes, religion, politics are nice extensions of the EA; it is interesting to know what other eunuch-like-minded people are thinking about in other areas of life.

While I have no desire for penectomy or being transsexual and while I usually ignore these areas, I have strayed there now and then and my visits have been educational. However if these areas did not exist, that would be OK too.